"I told him that if they persisted in assuming the government of the country the army ARMY-OFFICERS OF THE RESERVE. must be prepared to meet the united forces of SIR JOHN KENNAWAY asked the the Sultan and of the European Powers, both of whom were too much interested in the wel- Secretary of State for War, Whether any fare and tranquillity of Egypt to allow the order has been or is about to be issued, country to descend, through a military govern-giving permission to Officers of the Rement, to anarchy;' and, whether that language was approved by Her Majesty's Government? SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: Sir, my hon. Friend is justified in assuming that Her Majesty's Government approve it. serve to wear the uniform of their late regiment at Court; or if he will state the decision of the authorities on the subject? MR. CHILDERS: Sir, in reply to the hon. Baronet, I have to state that with respect to the uniform of some classes of Reserve officers orders have been already issued, but not as to all; THE IRISH CHURCH FUND-AMOUNT but full Regulations will shortly be OF THE SURPLUS. MR. VILLIERS STUART asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether it would be right to conclude, from the Irish Church Funds Return, that on and after 1932 the permanent income of the Commission will be £293,000 per annum; and, whether that income may be safely taken as representing, at the rate of three-and-ahalf per cent. a capital of between £8,000,000 and £9,000,000 sterling; and that, therefore, after paying off the National School Teachers' Fund, the Intermediate Education Fund, and the Royal University Fund, in all about £2,900,000, between £5,000,000 and £6,000,000 will still remain available for the Arrears Bill and other purely Irish purposes? issued. NAVY-DOCKYARDS-MEMORIAL OF ESTABLISHED SHIPWRIGHTS. MR. PULESTON asked the Secretary to the Admiralty, Whether Memorials of the established shipwrights of Her Majesty's dockyards, sent in due form through the proper channels, have been sideration has been given to the subject? received; and, if so, whether any con Sir, the Memorials referred to by the MR. CAMPBELL - BANNERMAN: hon. Member have been received and carefully considered by the professional advisers of the Admiralty; but the increases of pay asked for by the shipwrights have not been recommended for adoption. A reply has not yet been defer the announcement of the Board's sent, because it has been customary to decision in such cases until after the Estimates have been voted. PROVISIONS OF THE ACT AT PETER. MR. COURTNEY: Sir, the permanent income of the Church Fund, as given in the Returns recently presented, is taken from the last Report of the Church Commission, which shows the state of the Fund on the 31st of Decem- SPIRITS ACT, 1880-EVASION OF THE ber, 1880. Its position in this respect had not appreciably altered at the date when the Return was prepared. But it does not follow that the relations between the permanent and terminable income of the Fund will always remain the same. Persons owing rent-charges, rent, or mortgages to the Church Fund, may redeem their liabilities. The terminable income would be thereby increased, and the permanent income diminished. The Government are not prepared to undertake responsibility for the calculation made by the hon. Member. But I must observe that the present value of a capital of £8,000,000 or £9,000,000, accruing 50 years hence, would be only £1,600,000 or £1,800,000. DR. CAMERON asked the Secretary to the Treasury, Whether, since by sections 146, 148, and 151 of "The Spirits Act, 1880," it is enacted that any person who, in Scotland, sells or exposes to sale spirits, otherwise than in premises for which he is licensed to sell spirits, shall incur a penalty of not less than £25, with forfeiture of the spirits in his possession; that any person who buys or procures spirits from such unlicensed person shall incur a fine of £100; and that any officer or person employed by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue who, by any wilful act, neglect, or default, does or permits, or agrees to do or MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, James Banon was arrested on the 11th of April last, and has, therefore, been little more than two months in custody. His Excellency yesterday reconsidered his case, and decided that he cannot at present order his release. permit, any thing in contravention or his incarceration, now extending to evasion of "The Spirits Act, 1880," nearly three months' duration? shall incur a fine of £500, and be disqualified from serving Her Majesty in any office or employment; if he would state what officer or person in the employment of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue is responsible for permitting, and agreeing to permit, a contravention or evasion of this Act, in Peterhead, by three persons allowed by the Excise authorities, after attention had been called to the fact in this House, to sell liquor without confirmation of their certificates, and without licences, as if they were licensed grocers and publicans; and, whether the Commissioners of Inland Revenue intend taking any action in respect of their officer's deliberate breach of section 151 of the Spirits Act of 1880? MR. COURTNEY: Sir, the Board of Inland Revenue are alone responsible for the course which was advisedly pursued in the special circumstances of these cases; and, therefore, action will not be taken against any of their officers in the matter. The Board did not grant licences; they only abstained for a short period at their discretion from Excise interference with the sale of liquor, the Justices' clerk having had reason to believe that a further Court would be held about the middle of this month. Any other course of action would have been unjust towards the applicants, who, but for the accidental non-attendance of a quorum in the Confirmation Court, would doubtless have had their certificates fully confirmed past all dispute. If, notwithstanding this explanation, any person should consider himself aggrieved by the action of the magistrates and the Commissioners, it is open to him to contest the matter by proceeding before the magistrates for a penalty for the sale. of intoxicating liquor without a magis trate's certificate. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PRO- BANON. MR. MARUM asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether he will favourably consider the case of James Banon, a suspect in Kilmainham Gaol, with a view to his release, who has a large family dependent upon him, and 60 acres of land, without any person to attend to the same during Dr. Cameron STATE OF IRELAND-THE AFFRAY MR. O'CONNOR POWER asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, the Attor ney General has not yet received the depositions in this case. He has telegraphed to the Sessional Crown Solicitor to know the cause of the delay. MR. O'CONNOR POWER: The right hon. Gentleman has not answered that portion of my Question which relates to compensation to the family of the boy Melody. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR IRELAND (Mr. W. M. JOHNSON): Sir, I am advising the Government on this matter, and I have asked them not to come to a final decision until I have had an opportunity of looking into the mat ter. have had intelligence on the subject. We had expected before this to MR. O'CONNOR POWER: In that case I beg to give Notice that next week I shall repeat my Question. POST OFFICE (IRELAND)—THE POST- MR. FAWCETT: Sir, in reply to the hon. Member, I have to state that certain inquiries are being made in reference to this case, and I am consequently unable at the present time to answer his Question. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881-MR. JOHN O'BRIEN. MR. DILLON asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Is it a fact that Mr. John O'Brien, who was arrested in November last, charged with inciting to Boycotting, whereas the real charge against him, by local authorities, and reported to the Castle, was "Being the ringleader of a riotous mob in the town of Roscrea, on the night of 26th August, 1881;," if it is a fact that Mr. O'Brien was sent for trial, in company with two others, on said charge; if it is a fact that Judge Barry, at the Kilkenny Winter Assizes, on hearing the evidence of the police, ordered the prisoner's discharge, without going into the evidence for the defence; and whether Judge Barry said, "In this case the police were the real and, whether Mr. O'Brien aggressors; will now be released? MR. TREVELYAN: The charge upon which John O'Brien has been arrested is that stated in the Returns before Parliament "Boycotting." It is quite true that this man was suspected of having formed one of a mob of persons who assaulted the police in the town of Roscrea on the 26th of August last. Several of the police were very badly injured on the occasion, and two persons were sent for trial at the Winter Assizes as having been engaged in the assault. O'Brien was in custody under the Protection Act at the time of the Assizes, and was not put on his trial. The Crown Solicitor informed me that it was distinctly proved that they were in the mob, but the Judge did not think there was sufficient evidence of participation in the riot, and stopped the case. but that he did not say the Constabulary were the aggressors, nor did he utter one word condemnatory of them. His Excellency has had O'Brien's case under consideration, but finds he cannot at present order his release. VOL. CCLXX. [THIRD SERIES.] PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PRO PERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881—MESSRS. MR. DILLON asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether John and Cornelius Kelleher, William Walsh, and Maurice Gleeson are still detained in Kilmainham Gaol, although three others, arrested on the same day, in the same district, and on the same charge, have been released; and, if so, why the above-named are not released? MR TREVELYAN: Sir, His Excellency considers every case upon its own merits. He has had the case of the persons referred to in this Question of the hon. Member under consideration, but finds that he cannot at present order their release. THE ROYAL IRISH CONSTABULARY EXTRA PAY-EX-CONSTABLE WALSH. MR. HEALY asked the Chief Secre tary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether it is the fact that the extra pay to be voted to the police will include allowances to men not paid off before the 24th April last; and, whether, in that case, there is any reason for refusing to allow the extra amount to ExSub-Constable Walsh, who was not paid off until the 27th April? MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, the Inspector General of Constabulary informs me that the words of the Order issued to the Constabulary in reference to the proposed grant are that members of the Force who were serving in the Force on the 24th of April, 1882, will be entitled to participate in the grant. Ex-Constable Walsh was discharged from the Constabulary on the 13th of February, and is not entitled to share in the extra pay. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881 - RELEASE OF PERSONS DETAINED UNDER THE ACT. MR. SEXTON asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, How many persons are now in custody in Ireland under the Protection of Person and Property (Ireland) Act of last year; how many of these persons are 2 S classified by the Government as being under the suspicion of "personal association with crime;" what is the cause of the prolonged delay in setting at liberty the persons not so classified; and how soon their release may be expected; if he will state the number and names of the persons now imprisoned in Ireland under the statute of the 34th of Edward III.; and, whether the Government will undertake to release those persons, and to abandon the use of the statute? MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, the number in custody yesterday was 216. The number of such persons who are charged in the warrants as suspected of being implicated in crimes other than intimidation is 125. The cases are being considered and decided upon by the Lord Lieutenant day by day as rapidly as their due consideration will allow. His Excellency must be satisfied that the release can be made without danger to the peace of the district. I have called for the information asked for in the latter part of the Question, but have not yet received it. any person accompanied the honourable Member for Clare on the occasion of his visit to Kilmainham Prison, and what entry was made in connection with that visit in the prison books; whether he has any objection to lay upon the Table of the House a Return of the visits made to the political prisoners in Kilmainham Prison during their incarceration, with the names and dates; and, whether, in any instance, visitors have been admitted to see the prisoners without their names being recorded? MR. TREVELYAN: I know absolutely nothing about this matter; but I have asked the hon Member for Clare whether any gentleman went with him on that occasion, and he says that he was alone. MR. A. J. BALFOUR: This is not the first time that the Government has been asked about this matter, and I recollect that when I asked a somewhat similar Question about this matter some days ago-[" Order!"]-the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Attorney General for Ireland said the Govern ment were ignorant of everything connected with it. ["Order!"] EVICTIONS (IRELAND)—COUNTY WEX-is entitled to ask a Question arising out MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Member FORD. MR. REDMOND asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether it is a fact that, on June 13th, two tenants on the property of Mr. Bate, in the county of Wexford, were evicted, and, immediately after the eviction, their houses were burned down by the emergency men who took possession; and, whether, in view of the right of redemption possessed by these tenants, the Government will consent to include such conduct amongst offences as defined by the Prevention of Crime (Ireland) Bill? MR. TREVELYAN : Sir, these evictions were on title. The holdings became the absolute property of the landlord on his obtaining possession of them, and he had a legal right to destroy the buildings. The tenants did not possess in this case any right of redemption. of the answer given by the right hon. Gentleman, but he is not entitled to enter upon other matters. MR. A. J. BALFOUR: Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman could inform us whether any gentleman was admitted to the prison on the same day as the bon. Member for Clare went, and, if so, whether he was obliged to enter his name in the Visitors' Book? MR. TREVELYAN: Yes, Sir, I will inquire. MR. O'SHEA: Perhaps I may be allowed to say that nobody went to Kilmainham with me, and that I have since asked my hon. Friend the Member for the City of Cork whether anybody else went to see him on that day, and he tells me that nobody went. THE IRISH FISHERIES-THE RE- MR. BLAKE asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, IRELAND-MR. O'SHEA'S VISIT TO Why the Report of the Inspectors of KILMAINHAM GAOL. MR. G. W. ELLIOT asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether he is able to state if Mr. Sexton Irish Fisheries for 1881 has not been presented; and, if he will take measures to have it in the hands of Members before the Second Reading of the Sea Fisheries (Ireland) Bill on the 28th instant? MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, the Inspectors of Fisheries inform me that the Report is all in type, and is now undergoing revision. They expect to have it ready for presentation in the course of a week. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881-MESSRS. T. & P. MORRISSY. MR. T. P. O'CONNOR asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether the time has arrived for the release of Mr. Thomas Morrissy and his brother, whose parents have suffered great loss by their imprisonment, and who have been already confined for a period of seven months? MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, His Excellency the Lord Lieutenant has had the cases of Messrs. Thomas and Patrick Morrissy under his consideration, and has decided that he cannot at present order their release. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881-MR. JOHN DARCEY. MR. T. P. O'CONNOR asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, If the time has arrived for the release of John Darcey, who has now been incarcerated since June 17th 1881; and, if the Government be not willing to order Mr. Darcey's release, whether they will permit his transfer from Dundalk to Galway Gaol, so that he may be able to communicate with his wife and children, who have suffered severe loss from his imprisonment? MR. TREVELYAN: His Excellency has re-considered Mr. John Darcey's case, but finds that he cannot at present order his release. His application to be transferred to Galway Gaol had been considered last December, when it was decided that it could not be acceded to; but the reasons which then applied need not now apply, and the application shall be re-considered. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PRO. PERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881—MR. WILLIAM KEOGH. MR. T. P. O'CONNOR asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant MR. T. P. O'CONNOR asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, If the time has come for the release of Mr. Thomas Cunningham, at present confined in Kilmainham Prison; whether he has been incarcerated since December 29th last; and, whether all the other suspects from the same district (Loughrea) have been already released? MR. TREVELYAN: Sir, Mr. Thomas Cunningham has been under detention since the 29th of December last. His Excellency has the case under consideration, and I will let the hon. Member know the result when I hear it. PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881 — MR. J. P. QUINN. MR. HEALY asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether the Lord Lieutenant considers that the peace of Dublin, where he resides, would be endangered by the re |