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hon. Member for Tipperary (Mr. Dillon), | the earliest possible opportunity of rebecause the provision would be utterly examining the whole subject, and of useless unless it were made co-existent considering whether the extreme powers with the duration of the Bill. in the Executive had been wisely used. Would the Committee observe that this clause differed fundamentally from many of the other proposals in the Bill? Because, whereas many of the other proposals were for the enactment of powers which were, unfortunately, too familar to the Irish people, this clause was proposed in order to revive an enactment which was never resorted to except on one occasion, and that an occasion of extraordinary danger. The Alien Act was passed in 1848. Many parts of Ireland were then in a state of practical insurrection, and the Executive were confronted by an armed rebellion-the movement then was political and not social. Notwithstanding the extreme gravity of the occasion, the Government of the day simply proposed that the Act authorizing the removal of aliens should remain in force for one year, and to the end of the then Session of Parliament. That was following the maxim of Earl Grey; it was following the maxim which had governed English statesmen from all time. What was the proposal now before the Committee? Why, that Parliament, when it had once placed these extraordinary powers in the hands of the Executive, should not be able to say a word on the subject for three years to come. At this moment three distinct functions were possessed by the Govern

SIR WILLIAM HARCOURT said, he hoped they might now decide this point, whether it was necessary that the provision with respect to aliens should be co-extensive with the other provisions of the Bill. No doubt, this clause was a very unusual one; but the Government believed that a great part, he might almost say the greater part, of the mischief done in Ireland was due to foreign agencies. It was as desirable that these foreign agencies should be dealt with during the period the Government thought it right to recommend that this Act should remain in force, as that any of the other provisions of the Act should be proposed. The hon. Member for Tipperary (Mr. Dillon) had said that, in 1848, the Alien Act was passed for one year. That was true; but at that time an Act of Parliament did not take a whole Session to pass. At that time the House of Commons were in the habit of dealing reasonably with the questions brought before them; but now a time had been reached when the arts-he would not say of Obstruction, he would rather use some less obnoxious term-when the arts of procrastination had been carried to such a point, that if it were desired to renew an Act, it must be reckoned that the renewal would occupy the whole Session of Parliament. That seemed a conclusive reason for ex-ment-namely, Executive, Legislative, tending the operation of the Alien Act to three years.

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MR. SEXTON said, the speech of the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Home Secretary was interesting, for it had brought a new term-namely, procrastination"-within the region of political phraseology. A few days ago the right hon. and learned Gentleman professed great admiration for Earl Grey, who, speaking of coercive powers, had said that the Representatives of the people ought to have the earliest opportunity of revising and considering the exercise of such extreme powers. The Government of the Whig statesman whom the right hon. and learned Gentleman so much admired laid down the cardinal principle that, with reference to restrictions of individual liberty, the Representatives of the people assembled in the House of Commons should have

and Judicial; and, surely, if it was only necessary to enact the Alien Act for one year in the presence of an open rebellion, why was it necessary to re-enact it now for three years, when the movement against which the Act was aimed was but a social one? He could not conclude his remarks without referring to the suggestion of his hon. Friend the Member for Wexford (Mr. Healy), that because there was a law about to be passed against aliens in Ireland, it would be well to extend the law to England. He (Mr. Sexton) was not of that opinion. Two wrongs could never make one right. It was a pity that aliens in Ireland should, because of the unfortunate dispositions of the English Government towards that country, be driven away; but he could never put that forward as a reason why aliens--peaceable and industrious men-in other countries should be sub

jected to the same treatment. He should, | could be put into operation by the Lord upon the broad principles of liberty, pro- Lieutenant; but he would say that he test against the application of this clause to England, though it might be applied to Ireland.

MR. DAWSON said, that an Industrial Exhibition was now being got up in Ireland. That Exhibition had been "Boycotted" in the most severe manner by the landlord class; and the deliberative effect of this clause would be to chase from Ireland, on mere information given to the Lord Lieutenant, anyone who sympathized with the present industrial movement. He had no hesitation in saying that one of the objects of the clause was to stop the Industrial Exhibition, on which the Irish people set such store; that this Act was one to stop the industries and enterprize of Ireland he was convinced. In the name of the industrial classes he must enter his protest against this clause and against this Bill. From an Imperial point of view this was a dangerous clause. He hoped that the aliens who were in Ireland would remain there, and he hoped that strangers would come from foreign countries to Ireland to support the people in their industrial enterprize, which many people calling themselves Irish had refused to support. It would, indeed, be a perilous thing if the Government attempted the deportation of any such strangers.

DR. COMMINS said, this clause proposed an experiment of a very dangerous kind. He would like to know how many Members opposite who blindly followed the Government had gone to the trouble of reading the Alien Act? He ventured to say, if a Return were laid on the Table of the House, it would be found that not five hon. Gentlemen had ever read that Act. Of course, it was not necessary that hon.Gentlemen should be acquainted with every expired Act; but surely it was requisite they should know something of an Act it was proposed to re-enact by a sort of side-wind, as in this instance. He would not say anything as to the extraordinary manner in which the Act

doubted whether, in the present state of affairs, it was desirable, from an Imperial point of view, to open the door for further complications with foreign countries. If Parliament re-enacted this Act, it was just possible that America and France and other countries might take it into their heads to pass an Alien Act in order to expel from their countries any English residents they might consider troublesome. The arrest of three or four aliens in Ireland under the Coercion Act of last year had led to complications, the gravity of which they, in the House of Commons, had no conception. There was no doubt that complications of a very serious character arose between the Government of Her Majesty and the Government of Washington in consequence of the arrest of American citizens; and it was very probable that if the powers of this clause were exercised in regard to Americans, the complications under the Act of last year might be mere trifles in comparison with the complications which might arise hereafter.

It being a quarter of an hour before Six of the clock, the Chairman left the Chair to report Progress; Committee to sit again To-morrow.

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HANSARD'S PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES,

VOLUME CCLXX.

FIFTH VOLUME OF SESSION 1882.

EXPLANATION OF THE ABBREVIATIONS.

In Bills, Read 1o, 2o, 3o, or 1a, 2a, 3a, Read the First, Second, or Third Time.-In Speeches,
1R., 2R., 3R., Speech delivered on the First, Second, or Third Reading.—Amendt., Amend-
ment. Res., Resolution.—Comm., Committee.-Re-Comm., Re-Committal.-Rep., Report.-
Consid., Consideration.-Adj., Adjournment or Adjourned.-c., Clause.--add. cl., Additional
Clause.-neg., Negatived.-M. Q., Main Question.-O. Q., Original Question.-O. M., Original
Motion.-P. Q., Previous Question.-R. P., Report Progress.-A., Ayes.-N., Noes.-M., Mas
jority.-1st. Div., 2nd. Div., First or Second Division.-l., Lords.-c., Commons.

A

When in this Index a* is added to the Reading of a Bill, it indicates that no Debate took
place upon that stage of the measure.

When in the Text or in the Index a Speech is marked thus, it indicates that the Speech
is reprinted from a Pamphlet or some authorized Report.

When in the Index a t is prefixed to a Name or an Office (the Member having accepted or
vacated office during the Session) and to Subjects of Debate thereunder, it indicates that the
Speeches on those Subjects were delivered in the speaker's private or official character, as the
case may be.

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Some subjects of debate have been classified under the following "General Headings: "-
ARMY-NAVY-INDIA-IRELAND - SCOTLAND PARLIAMENT - - POOR LAW-POST OFFICE-
METROPOLIS CHURCH OF ENGLAND EDUCATION CRIMINAL LAW LAW AND JUSTICE.
TAXATION, under WAYS AND MEANS.

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BERDARE, Lord

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Protection of Person and Property (Ire-
land) Act, 1881-Release of Mr. Parnell and
others confined under the Act, Motion for
Papers, 41

Wrexham, Mold, and Connah's Quay Railway
(Extensions and Dock), Motion for Re-

comm. 11

Adulteration of Foods and Drugs Acts-
Lard Cheese

Questions, Mr. R. H. Paget, Mr. Wilbraham
Egerton; Answers, Mr. Chamberlain June 12,
826; Question, Mr. Wilbraham Egerton ;
Answer, Mr. Chamberlain June 15, 1275

Africa (East Coast)-Suppression of the
Slave Trade

Question, Mr. Gourley; Answer, Mr. Campbell-
Bannerman June 5, 73

YOL. CCLXX. [THIRD SERIES.]

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Africa (South)

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Cetewayo, Ex-King of Zululand-Restrictions
as to Correspondence, Questions, Mr. Dillwyn,
Mr. R. N. Fowler; Answers, Mr. Evelyn
Ashley June 9, 655;— Letter from the Trans-
vaal Government urging his Restoration,
Question, Sir Wilfrid Lawson; Answer, Mr.
Evelyn Ashley June 12, 824 ;-John Dunn
and the Zulu Chiefs, Question, Mr. Richard;
Answer, Mr. Evelyn Ashley June 15, 1237
The Transvaal Attacks by the Boers on
Native Tribes, Question, Mr. Gorst; Answer,
Mr. Evelyn Ashley June 5, 71
Zululand-John Dunn's Territory, Questions,
Mr. Richard, Mr. Gorst; Answers, Mr.
Evelyn Ashley June 8, 474

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ALEXANDER, Colonel C., Ayrshire, S.
Army-Appointments in the Royal Engineers,

56

Police, Leave, 620

Settled Land, Comm. 355

3 S

270.

(Mr. Jesse Collings, | ARMY-cont.

Mr. Burt, Mr. Brand, Mr. Bryce)

Allotments Bill

o. Committee -R.P. June 7

[Bill 90]

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MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS

Appointments in the Royal Engineers, Ques-
tions, Mr. Stewart Macliver, Colonel Alex.
ander; Answers, Mr. Childers June 5, 55
Committee on Dress of the Army, Question,
Colonel Barne; Answer, Mr. Childers
June 8, 842

Competitive Examinations- West Indian Regi-
ments, Question, Major Master; Answer,
Mr. Childers June 5, 64

Cost of Salutes, Question, Colonel Nolan; An-
swer, Sir Arthur Ilayter June 9, 654
Drunkenness, Question, Mr. Caine; Answer,

The Judge Advocate General June 19, 1582
Field Days in Hot Weather, Question, Mr.
Arthur O'Connor; Answer, Mr. Childers
'June 8, 476

Instruction in Military Tactics, Question, Mr.
Anderson; Answer, Mr. Childers June 19,
1603

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Pay Department, Question, Colonel O'Beirne;
Answer, Mr. Childers June 12, 832
Royal Military Academy, Woolwich, Question,
Observations, Lord Truro; Reply, The Earl
of Morley June 9, 628

Shooting and Driving Prizes, 1881, Question,
Colonel Nolan; Answer, Mr. Childers
June 19, 1595

Soldiers as Caretakers (Ireland), Question,
General Sir George Balfour; Answer, Mr.
Childers June 12, 824

The British Troops in Natal, Question, Sir
David Wedderburn; Answer, Mr. Childers
June 12, 810

Auxiliary Forces

Adjutants, Question, Mr. Mac Iver; Answer,
Mr. Childers June 16, 1405

Militia Surgeons Pensions, Question, Mr.
O'Shaughnessy; Answer, Mr. Childers
June 15, 1228

Volunteer Corps, Question, Mr. Rankin; An-
swer, Mr. Childers June 5, 75

Army (India)-Captain J. B. Chatterton,
Bengal Staff Corps

Motion for an Address, The Earl of Galloway
June 16, 1394; after debate, Motion with-
drawn

ARNOLD, Mr. A., Salford

Egypt (Political Affairs), 364; English
Policy, 1244;-Political Crisis, 1763
Parliament Business of the House, Ministerial
Statement, 1785

Parliament Rules and Orders - Standing
Order 167, 664

Prevention of Crime (Ireland), Comm. el. 4,

857, 908; cl. 7, 1281; cl. 8, 1500; el. 11,
1907, 1908, 1923

Settled Land, Comm. Amendt. 349, 351, 352,
353, 357

Arrears of Rent (Ireland) Bill

Questions, Mr. Biddell, Mr. Gregory; An-
swers, Mr. Gladstone June 5, 76
Lord Rossmore's Estate, Question, Mr. Dillon;
Answer, Mr. Gladstone June 16, 1422
The Estimates, Questions, Sir Stafford North-
cote, Mr. Brand; Answers, The Chancellor
of the Exchequer June 12, 836

The Irish Church Fund, Question, Sir Henry
Holland; Answer, Mr. Courtney June 15,
1228; Questions, Mr. Anderson, Mr. W. H.
Smith; Answers, The Chancellor of the
Exchequer, 1264

Artillery Ranges Bill
(Mr. Secretary Childers, The Judge Advocate
General, Mr. Campbell-Bannerman, Mr.
Trevelyan)

c. Read 3°* June 5

[Bill 188]

Organization of the Cavalry, Question, Colonel
O'Beirne; Answer, Sir Arthur Hayter 1. Read 1*(Earl of Morley) June 6 (No. 119)

June 9, 652

Read 2a June 16

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270.

ASHLEY, Hon. E. M. (Under Secretary | BALFOUR, Right Hon. J. B.—cont.
of State for the Colonies), Isle of
Wight

Africa (South)--Miscellaneous Questions

Cetewayo, Ex-King of Zululand-Restric-
tions as to Correspondence, 655 ;-Letter
from the Transvaal Government urging
his Restoration, 824

The Transvaal-Attacks by the Boers on
Native Tribes, 72, 73

Zululand-John Dunn's Territory, 474,
475, 1237

New Zealand-Te Whiti, the Maori Chief,

1585

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Prevention of Crime (Ireland), Comm. cl. 1,
99, 104, 119, 120, 121; Amendt. 127, 128,
130, 131, 145; cl. 2, 206; cl. 3, 239, 240,
282; cl. 4, 314, 503, 507, 508, 518, 528,
532, 533, 536, 538, 726, 740, 751, 761, 869,
879, 906; cl. 5, 939, 1087, 1125; cl. 7.
1360, 1430, 1432, 1434, 1440, 1443, 1457;
cl. 8, 1490, 1491, 1499, 1500, 1524, 1536,
1537, 1540, 1542, 1543; cl. 9, 1649, 1651,
1652, 1653, 1654, 1659, 1660, 1664; cl. 11,
1808, 1867

Settled Land, Comm. 353

Supreme Court of Judicature Acts Amend-
ment, Comm. cl. 1, 960, 962

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Scotland-Miscellaneous Questions

Debtors' Act, 1880-Illegal Pawning, 69,-
Kenneth Mackenzie, a Bankrupt, 1227
Evictions-Lochcarran, Co. Ross, 806
Local Taxation and Expenditure, 843
Settled Land, Comm. 358

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BARING, Mr. T. C., Essex, S.

Partnerships, Comm. 212, 214

BARNE, Colonel F. St. J. N., Suffolk, E.
Army-Committee on Dress of the Army, 482
Corn Returns (No. 2), 2R. 613
Prevention of Crime (Ireland), Comm. cl. 5,
1027

BARRY, Mr. J., Wexford Co.

Prevention of Crime (Ireland), Comm. cl. 4,
558, 690, 915

BARTTELOT, Colonel Sir W.B., Sussex, W.
Egypt (Political Affairs), 1420, 1422;-Italian
Government, 1276, 1277

Ireland, State of Murders of Mr. Bourke and
Corporal Wallace, 1231

"Treaty of Kilmainham," 986, 987

Baths and Washhouses Acts Amendment
Bill

(Mr. Stanhope, Mr. Chaplin, Mr. Gorst)
c. Ordered; read 1° June 14 [Bill 201]
Read 2o June 21

BENTINCK, Right Hon. G. A. F. Caven-
dish, Whitehaven

Parliamentary Elections (Corrupt and Illegal
Practices), 1768

BIDDELL, Mr. W., Suffolk, W.
Arrears of Rent (Ireland), 76

Licensing

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