(a.) The number cut off since that date; (b.) The number now in existence : "II. Entails executed in Scotland on and subsequent to 1st August 1848;

(a.) The number registered;

(b.) The number which have since been cut off;

(c.) The number now in existence." I believe the Returns, if they are granted, will give very useful and instructive information in regard to existing Acts of Entail. There was an Act passed in 1847, called Lord Rutherford's Act; but I have never seen any Returns of the operation of that Act. Those who framed that Act expected that by it entails granted in future would be easier to cut off than heretofore. I should very much like to know what has resulted. I do not myself know how many entails there are at present in Scotland-whether there are 1,000 or 1,000,000—and I think it would be very instructive and very useful, especially in reference to the Bill which is now before your Lordships' House, if these Returns should be granted.

THE EARL OF ROSEBERY: I quite agree with my noble Friend that these Returns would be very useful and instructive if they could be obtained. All I can say is, that we will do our best to obtain them for him.

ELECTION OF REPRESENTATIVE PEERS

(IRELAND) BILL [H.L.]

A Bill to amend the Law relating to the Election of Lords Temporal to serve in Parlia of BELMORE; read 1a. (No. 137.) ment for Ireland-Was presented by The Earl

INTERMEDIATE EDUCATION (IRELAND)
BILL [H.L.]

A Bill to amend the Intermediate Education (Ireland) Act, 1878-Was presented by The Lord O'HAGA; read 1a. (No. 138.)

House adjourned at a quarter past Six o'clock, to Thursday next, a quarter past Ten o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tuesday, 13th June, 1882.

The House met at Two of the clock. MINUTES.] PRIVATE BILLS (by Order), Third Reading Gateshead and District Tramways; Lydd Railway (Extensions) *; Milford Docks; Plymouth and Dartmoor Railway, and passed.

PUBLIC BILLS-Committee-Prevention of Crime (Ireland) [157]-R.P. [Tenth Night]; Corn Returns (No. 2) [193]—R.P.

Committee Report - Third Reading-Customs and Inland Revenue Buildings (Ireland)* [156], and passed.

Considered as amended-Third Reading-Public Schools (Scotland) Teachers [153], and passed. Third Reading-Local Government (Gas) Provisional Order* [144]; Local Government Provisional Orders (No. 7)* [167]; Local Government Provisional Order (No. 8) [168]; Local Government Provisional Orders (No. 9) [174]; Pier and Harbour Provisional Orders [142]; Tramways Provisional Orders (No. 3) * [161], and passed.

has been called to the fact that three applications for confirmation of new certificates for grocers' and publicans' licences, set down for consideration at a meeting of the Joint Licensing Committee of Peterhead on May 15th, not being granted in consequence of there being no quorum of the Joint Committee, the magistrates present granted an illegal certificate authorising the applicants to sell liquor at their own risk, and on that certificate the Excise authorities have provisionally accepted the Licence Duty, and permitted the persons to sell liquor as if licensed according to Law; and, whether, when provisionally accepting the Duty, the Excise officials granted licences on unconfirmed "new certificates," in contravention of the provisions of the Publicans' Certificates (Scotland) Act; and, if not, under what authority the Excise officials have in these cases connived at the selling of excisable liquors by unlicensed persons?

MR. COURTNEY: I am informed that the Confirmation Court at Peterhead, which did not consist of the full quorum, confirmed, so far as they had the power, the certificates in the three cases referred to, which certificates had been unanimously granted by the Licensing Court. This, however, was subject. to the applicants accepting the risk of an objection, on the ground of the incompleteness of the Court. The Excise have not granted licences in any of the cases; but, in accordance with their usual practice, and not in contravention of any Act of Parliament, they informed the applicants that if they thought proper to deposit the Licence Duty and to sell on their own responsibility, pending the full confirmation, they would not be interfered with so far as the Revenue was concerned.

adopted by an infants' school teacher with marked success, showing that the method is easy of acquirement and fruitful in its results;" And, whether the Education Department can do anything to facilitate the teaching of children to read under the method therein recommended?

MR. MUNDELLA: I have seen the

letter to which the hon. Member refers. Mr. Legard, Her Majesty's Inspector, expresses his satisfaction with the results of the Phonic method of teaching reading in certain infant schools at Leeds. He states that no change is introduced in the mode of spelling; but that the dif ferent vowel sounds are distinguished by a variety of marks, which greatly facili tate the teaching of reading to young children. Although the Department is willing that new educational experiments shall have a fair trial, we do not feel justified in prescribing the Phonic or any other method. We shall not, however, discourage it; and we believe that if the system is sound it will make its way, as there is no lack of enterprize on the part of school boards, managers, and teachers, all of whom are interested in arriving at the highest results by the best methods.

VACCINATION-THE OFFICIAL

METHOD.

MR. P. A. TAYLOR asked the President of the Local Government Board, Whether his attention has been called to

the verdict of a coroner's jury at Holloway, of "shock to the system following vaccination," the medical evidence being that the child in question might have survived two incisions, but was unable to withstand the shock caused by four; and, whether the British Medical Journal is correct in asserting that

"It is imperative for public vaccinators to make four scarifications, in accordance with the directions of the Local Government Board ?"

MR. DODSON: My attention has been called to the verdict in this case, but as yet I have only been able to obtain a brief report in a newspaper of the evidence, and I have directed a further inquiry into the circumstances of the case. It is true that the instructions issued several years ago by the Privy Council direct the public vaccinators to make such punctures as would produce four vesicles; but, according to the experience of the Department, no harm has resulted from this practice, which is

THE IRISH CHURCH TEMPORALITIES COMMISSION - NATIONAL SCHOOL TEACHERS (IRELAND) ACT. MR. MACARTNEY (for Mr. EWART) asked the Secretary to the Treasury, If the Commissioners of Church Temporalities in Ireland have paid over cash, or have appropriated specific securities of an equal value to the amount of one million three hundred thousand pounds to the Pension Fund, under the National School Teachers (Ireland) Act, as required by the third section of the Act of the 42 and 43 Vic. c. 74; and, if the money has not yet been paid over, to inquire whether steps will be at once taken to secure the Pension Fund before any further charges are imposed on the property of the Irish Church Fund?

MR. COURTNEY: The Irish Church Commission have not paid over cash or appropriated specific securities of an equal value to £1,300,000 to the National School Teachers' Pension Fund, because the Act only requires them to do so upon a certificate from the National Debt Commissioners, that the whole or part of the sum is required for the purposes of the Act, and no such certificate has been given. The Irish Church Commissioners pay to the National Debt Commissioners, under the second part of the section in question, interest at the rate of 3 per cent per annum upon £1,300,000. Any new charge to be imposed upon the Church Fund must form the subject of proposals to Parliament; and the hon. Member will be able to judge whether these proposals maintain the security of the National School Teachers' Pension Fund.

MR. CHAMBERLAIN, in reply, said, that an inquiry had been ordered as to the conveyance of emigrants from the Scandinavian ports. The Report had been received, and as soon as it had been considered there would be no objection to lay it on the Table?

EGYPT THE POLITICAL CRISIS. MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT asked the Under Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Whether Her Majesty's Government have asked, or will now ask, the Sultan, who is Sovereign of Egypt, to send an armed force to that Country to prevent a recurrence of the recent deplorable riot at Alexandria, and to check the revolutionary party?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: I regret that it is not expedient that I should give any further answer to the hon. Member than that I have already given. The hon. Member will see by the course of events and the Papers, when published, what has been the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to armed intervention in Egypt.

MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT: I beg to call the attention of the hea. Baronet to the fact that my Questioa applies as much to the future as to the past.

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: Yes, Sir; my answer also applies to the future.

SIR STAFFORD NORTHCOTE: I wish to ask the hon. Baronet whether he can give us any further information as to the recent events in Alexandria, and the condition of Mr. Cookson, our Consul?

andria is now perfectly quiet. There is andria is now perfectly quiet. There is a very large concentration of Egyptian Dervish Pasha has introops there. creased the garrison, which now amounts to 12,000 men, almost the whole of the Egyptian Army being there. The streets are perfectly quiet; the troops patrol the streets and disarm everybody, taking away their sticks. Mr. Cookson is going on very well indeed. It may be interesting to know how many people have been killed in the riot. We have no very accurate information on that subject. It has been exceedingly difficult to discover it from the different hospi

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: Alex

tals; but our own information is that about 50 people were killed.

MR. J. LOWTHER: The hon. Baronet spoke of Dervish Pasha as having increased the garrison of Alexandria. Do I understand that Dervish Pasha has assumed the responsibility of restoring order in Egypt?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: As I stated yesterday, the position is extremely anomalous. Orders are given both by Dervish Pasha and the Khedive; and they apparently are given through Arabi Pasha and the other Ministers; but Dervish Pasha states that the increase in the garrison of Alexandria has been by his orders.

MR. G. W. ELLIOT asked whether, in the event of Arabi Pasha being reinstated in the Councils of the Khedive, the Ultimatum or Note, or whatever it might be called, of Her Majesty's Government and France having thus been absolutely disregarded, Her Majesty's Government propose to take any steps to enforce such Note or Ultimatum; and, if not, whether any orders had or would be given for the Fleet to leave Egyptian

waters?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: I can not answer the Question for two reasons. In the first place, it is not a Question growing out of the answer I have already given; and, in the second place, it is a Question of which Notice ought to be given. Notice ought to be given of all Questions not arising out of the immediate situation.

MR. RAIKES: Perhaps the hon. Baronet can say whether the Government are in the possession of any information as to whether the Khedive has left Cairo ?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: I was about to make a statement on that subject in answer to a Question on the Paper of my hon. Friend the Member for Hull (Mr. Norwood).

MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT: I beg to give Notice that I will repeat my Question to-morrow.

BARON HENRY DE WORMS asked the hon. Baronet whether five of the iron-clads now in Egyptian waters drew too much water to enter the harbour of Alexandria?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: This Question does not at all arise out of the others; but in order to prevent it being put a second time I shall answer it now.

The Question, I suppose, refers to the four iron-clads (not five) that have last appeared off the coast. One of them draws too much water to enter the port. One can enter, and the other two can enter into a portion of the harbour, but not the whole.

MR. NORWOOD asked the Under Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Whether steps have been taken to secure prompt communication between Her Majesty's Representatives at Cairo and the commanders of Her Majesty's vessels at Suez and Port Said, in order that British merchant ships may be stopped from entering the Canal in the event of the disorders in Egypt assuming a more threatening aspect?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: In reply to my hon. Friend, I can inform him that there is at each end of the Canal one of Her Majesty's ships, whose commanders would at once know if anything were wrong, and warn vessels accordingly. Measures have been taken to restore at once telegraphic communication in the event of its being interrupted, and the Admiral is fully supplied with despatch vessels, should they be required. As the Question refers to communications between Port Said and Suez, I may take this opportunity of stating that the Khedive and Dervish Pasha have left Cairo together for Alexandria; but Sir Edward Malet and the other Consuls have not accompanied them, but remain at Cairo. The news arrived about two hours ago, and I do not know whether they had left late last night or early this morning; but Sir Edward Malet and the other Consuls seem to have remained at Cairo. We have informed Sir Edward Malet that we think his proper place is with the Khedive. I have no doubt, therefore, that he will have left for Alexandria.

MR. JOSEPH COWEN: I wish to ask, has the hon. Baronet received any information as to the formation of a new Ministry of which Arabi Pasha is the head?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: No, Sir; we have no such information.

MR. LABOUCHERE: Can the hon. Baronet state where Arabi Pasha iswhether he is still at Cairo?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: The telegram does not give us any information on the subject. I presume he remains in Cairo; but I do not know.

MR. MACARTNEY: I wish to ask if Arabi Pasha remains at Cairo while the whole of the Egyptian Army has gone to Alexandria, is not the position of the Europeans who remain at Cairo very dangerous?

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: That, of course, is a matter of opinion; but I have no doubt that if the whole of the European Consuls follow the Khedive to Alexandria a large portion of the European inhabitants of Cairo will do the

same.

MR. G. W. ELLIOT: Can the hon. Baronet now answer my Questionnamely, whether, in the event of Arabi Pasha being reinstated in the Councils of the Khedive, the Ultimatum or Note, or whatever it might be called, of Her Majesty's Government and France having thus been absolutely disregarded, Her Majesty's Government propose to take any steps to enforce such Note or Ultimatum; and, if not, whether any orders had or would be given for the Fleet to leave Egyptian waters? If the hon. Baronet cannot answer now, I will give Notice for to-morrow.

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: I shall not be any better able to answer to-morrow than now. All I can tell the hon. Member is that the present condition of anarchy in Egypt will not be allowed to continue. I cannot go into any details of the measures which will be adopted.

MR. BOURKE: May I be permitted to ask whether Her Majesty's Government are taking any measures by applying to shipowners for the protection and safety of British subjects at Alexandria, because it is obvious that if there is a large number of persons anxious to go on board ship, the transports or men-ofwar would not be sufficient.

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE: In answer to the right hon. Gentleman, I believe that Admiral Sir Beauchamp Seymour has made arrangements for sending people wishing to leave the shore on board the Tanjore, the Peninsular and Oriental boat at Alexandria, at the present time the accommodation on board the iron-clads not being very good?

EMIGRATION-THE UNITED STATES

OF AMERICA-PASSENGER ACTS

LEGISLATION.

MR. MOORE asked the President of the Board of Trade, Whether it is a fact that the United States Government are

at present engaged in revising their Passenger Acts; and, whether he has any objection to lay upon the Table a Copy of the proposed Bill, together with any Reports made by the Board of Trade thereon?

• MR. CHAMBERLAIN, in reply, said, that there were at present two Bills dealing with this subject before the House of Representatives in the United States, and if they were passed he would consider whether it was desirable to make a Report on the subject.

PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881-MR. J. HOULIHAN.

MR. DILLON asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether Mr. John Houlihan, of Roscrea, was arrested on 4th November 1881, on a charge of inciting to Boycott; whether he is still detained in Kilkenny Gaol; whether, if convicted on said charge, his imprisonment would have been much shorter; and, whether he will be now released?

MR. TREVELYAN: Mr. John Houlihan was not arrested as a punishment for the crime which he was reasonably suspected of having committed, but because his being at large in the district was not considered consistent with its peace. That is the essence of the Protection Act as compared with the Prevention of Crime Bill. The Lord Lieutenant has recently considered his case, and decided that he cannot at present be released with safety.

PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881-PATRICK AND JOHN CURLEY.

MR. REDMOND asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Whether the Lord Lieutenant has reconsidered the case of Patrick Curley and his son John Curley, at present detained in Kilmainham Prison; and, whether he can now order their release?

MR. TREVELYAN: His Excellency the Lord Lieutenant has recently considered the cases of Patrick and John Curley, and decided that he cannot at present order their release.

PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY (IRELAND) ACT, 1881—MR. M. P.

KENNY.

MR. REDMOND asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ire