TESTIMONY OF DONALD MCLENNEN.

Donald McLennen sworn:

Q-State in what capacity you was acting on or about the twentyfifth day of September last?

A.-I was acting in the capacity of grand juror for the County of San Francisco.

Q.-Was you at the Industrial School on that day; and if so, state what you saw in relation to lads in confinement?

A. I visited the School with other gentlemen, in the capacity of grand juror on the day mentioned. I saw, I think, but three lads in confinement. The boy Griffith said he was in confinement for attempting the life of the Janitor. I told him if he would behave himself he would soon be released. He said he "did not care a damn; did not expect to get out." He is bad at heart. I would not trust him in anything. I thought the punishment mild; and understood he had a mattrass at night, after he had an attack of rheumatism.

Q. Did you sign the report of the Grand Jury; and if so, do you, on reflection, approve the contents, so far as it relates to the Industrial School?

A.-I do not.

TESTIMONY OF J. C. MORRILL.

Captain J. C. Morrill sworn:

Q.-In what capacity do you act at the Industrial School?
A.-I am the principal teacher.

Q. Will you please state what you know of the management of the institution, its condition-and particularly what you know of the crimes and punishment of the boys, Griffith, Sullivan, Bunner and Wallace?

A.-The School, in my opinion, is in good condition. The boys are under the best of training and instruction. We are all doing our best to make the institution answer fully the ends for which it was created. The whole institution is kept scrupulously clean. The walls in the wash-room, which were pronounced "dingy" by the grand jurors, had lately been painted a dark color, and were perfectly fresh and clean. The boys in confinement supposed they possessed the sympathy of the town people, which had a tendency to make them insolent. The boy Griffith was never a good boy, was always getting up schemes, and had a bad influence on other boys; was always stealing, cursing and swearing, and behaving badly in every way. Sullivan and Wallace the same; they are not safe boys to be at large with other boys. Bunner is a very bad boy; he attempted to strangle a small boy who was in charge of the water-closet.

TESTIMONY OF SAMUEL AMBROSE.

Samuel Ambrose sworn:

Q-In what capacity was you acting on or about the twenty-fifth day of September last?

A-I was a grand juror for the City and County of San Francisco? Q. Did you visit the Industrial School; and if so, please state what you saw?

A. I visited the School with other grand jurors. Until we reached the cells we were all delighted with what we saw of the management of the School. The cells were neat and clean. One of the boys cried on being expostulated with. They had no books. There were no mattrasses in the cells. The blankets were folded and placed outside.

TESTIMONY OF HENRY B. JANES.

Henry B. Janes sworn, who made the following statement:

I believe the management of the Industrial School is everything it ought to be, with the exception of the treatment of delinquent boys. I was the counsel of the boy Sullivan, who fired the building; felt it my duty to defend him, the same as I would have any other client. He was released on the ground that he set the fire not with the intent or expectation of burning the building, but in the hope of escaping.

TESTIMONY OF H. C. BEALS.

H. C. Beals sworn:

Q. Did you sign the report of the Grand Jury of San Francisco County, made on or about the twenty-fifth day of September last; and if so, state what you know of the confinement of boys at the Industrial School.

A.-I signed that report, and fully indorse the statements made therein; I visited the school, and was pleased with the general management; saw nothing objectionable, except in the treatment of boys confined; we (the jurors) were all impressed with the severity of the punishment; there was no furniture in the rooms except the bunks; the boys had nothing but one pair of blankets, which was entirely insufficient; I am satisfied that the boys had not a mattress at the time the visit was made; I went there without bias, and believe the school is well kept, and find no fault with anything except as before stated, with the punishment of the boys; the boys told us they had no mattrasses; every member of the jury signed the report.

TESTIMONY OF DOCTOR DEAN.

Doctor Dean sworn, who made the following statement:

When the boys were confined in the cells the weather was warm; it was in the month of September; I think their bedding was sufficient for that season; I never asked the boys if they slept warm, nor did I hear complaint; the boys are well and sufficiently clad in woollen clothes; I have never known disease to be induced by insufficient clothing at the institution; the children are well cared for in every respect.

On motion of Senator Johnson, the Committee adjourned to meet again at the call of the Chairman.