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1781.

Coventry Election.] January 23, 1781. A Petition was presented by lord Beauchamp from lord Sheffield and Mr. Yeo, complaining of an undue election of members of parliament for the city of Coventry.

always been considered, but to make his life in some degree tolerable, by the enjoyment of an annuity or pension, or some such thing.-The noble lord says, that the government of Greenwich Hospital is not worth more than 7 or 800l. a year. Admitted; but it is an honourable office, it is an office that has been held by sir George Rodney and sir Charles Hardy, and is therefore very unfit to be held by the present governor. Were it 700 or but 7. value in money, still it is an honourable place. It is a place that gives high rank in the navy. Mr. Fox then adverted to lord North's reasoning on the observation he had made, that lord Howe, admiral Keppel, &c. would be justly chargeable with madness, should they again serve under the direction of the present ministry. Would it not be a great madness, says the noble lord, to employ agents who entertain such opinions of their employers, who believe them to be false and treacherous?-The noble lord does not vindicate ministry against the charge of treachery and falsehood, and his argument is this: We are false and treacherous, and we will not employ those who know us to be so. There may be ingenuity and wit in such replies, but there is little judgment. A joke is a poor consolation for the loss of so many gallant men as have been forced to quit the public service. The prime minister is contented with the praise of being able to raise a laugh.

Mr. Pulteney agreed in thinking ministry blameable in abandoning sir Hugh so long to a torrent of unmerited popular abuse and obloquy. They ought to have done him justice sooner, and to have restored him to all his offices. The revival of the contest was a thing extremely irksome and disagreeable. But a discussion of the matters that had been agitated that night, was to be expected some time or other. It was unavoidable; and the sooner it was over the better. He maintained, that the sentences of courts-martial, and of all courts, were subject to the revision of the nation at large; and that that was the meaning of trials being carried on, not with shut doors, but in public. Whoever read the trial of admiral Keppel, would regard the sentence pronounced by the court, not separately, and by itself, but would pay a deference to it only as far as it arose out of the evidence by which it was supported, and on which it was founded.

The Resolutions were then agreed to.

Lord Beauchamp desired to be informed of the first day when a committee could be balloted for taking the above petition into consideration, and deciding concerning its merits. The Speaker replied, the 26th of June. His lordship then moved, that this Petition be referred to a committee on the 15th of February next. He knew that the principle of Mr. Grenville's Bill was, to leave nothing, or as little as possible, to the discretion of the House, with regard to contested elections: but still in certain cases the exercise of discretion in such matters was necessary, and allowed even by that Bill, and authorised by the custom of the House. If no discretionary power was allowed to the House, what was the reason of reading petitions before a day was fixed for their consideration? It was true, that the order of their being heard, in common cases, was determined by chance; but where there were singular and extraordinary circumstances attending any election, that order had been broken through, as was evident from a precedent in 1774, in a petition from Westminster, and in the Worcester and Oakhampton petitions this very session. The petition from Coventry was an extraordinary one, and deserved extraordinary attention. It might be said, that to grant an early hearing to that petition, would break in upon the time allotted for the consideration of the other petitions; but his lordship endeavoured to obviate that objection, by saying, that from a regard to the convenience of the House, only two committees for trying elections were to be appointed in one week: but that there was no reason why they might not appoint three for one week, if they thought proper, and were willing to take the trouble of doing so. He did not imagine, that by this early appointment he injured any party.

Mr. Frederick Montagu said, the House must not be surprised at his being alive all over at any attempt that should be made to depart from the spirit of Mr. Grenville's Bill. The present motion he considered as inimical to that Bill, in the framing and supporting of which he had taken so considerable a share, that he could not but feel most sensibly whenever it was attack

ed. He was not, he said, in the House, when the petitions alluded to by the noble lord were the subject of debate, and the days fixed for ballotting for committees to try their merits were altered: if he had, he most certainly should have opposed such an alteration, because he felt it incumbent upon him, as one of the parents of Mr. Grenville's Act, to resist every effort to destroy the operation of that Act. The great utility of that Act had now proved itself incontrovertibly, and he trusted that the young members would pay it due attention, and think it no inconsiderable part of their duty to undergo the fatigues it imposed on them with cheerfulness, especially when they balanced against their labo the great good they thereby rendered their country. He concluded with moving, as an amendment, that the words, " 15th of February," be omitted, and that the words, "26th of June," be inserted instead.

Mr. Adam said, that Mr. Grenville's Bill having given the House a power of altering the day of hearing any petition, it was a false argument to maintain, that to accelerate the trial of any petition, founded upon allegations of an extraordinary nature, was either to contradict the meaning of Mr. Grenville's Act, to attack it in any shape, or to impede its proper operation. He said, no man respected Mr. Grenville's Act more than he did: he had, in the commencement of the last parliament, learnt to admire its justice and its policy, by experience acquired in the course of his frequently sitting and acting under its authority upon various commit tees. That he was perfectly acquainted with the whole of that Act, and had it contained any enacting clause, limiting the House to a certain day for ballotting for a committee to try any election, he should then have thought the present motion an attempt to fly in the face of the Act; but as there was no such clause in the Act, on the contrary, as the Act contained a clause, giving express power to the House to delay the trial of any petition at its discretion, and as the obvious aim of the Act was to accelerate justice, he could not conceive, that the present motion could, in any view of it, be construed into an opposition to Mr. Grenville's Act.

Mr. Dunning said, he had ever considered Mr. Grenville's Act as an instrument of great good; but though there was no clause forbidding such a motion as the present, he maintained that the spirit

of the Act was as obligatory as the letter of it; it clearly was to take the trial of elections wholly out of the House, to administer justice equally, and without partiality or distinction, through the medium of a committee, who were to judge solely from the evidence, and not from prejudice or affection.

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Mr. Macdonald declared, that no man had a greater deference for the opinions of the learned gentleman who spoke last than he had, since from his opinions he had chiefly learnt to form his own, but that he could not help differing from his argument, and from his mode of reasoning. agreed that an Act ought to be construed by its spirit as well as its letter, but could not agree that the letter should be disregarded altogether. He then stated that the Act gave an express power of procrastination to the House; whence he inferred, that the House had power to accelerate a ballot where the case was extraordinary. This doctrine he applied to the case in question.

Mr. Lloyd Kenyon said, he stood in the predicament of a member petitioned against on the heavy charge of bribery. That his moral character was bleeding afresh every hour that the trial of the petition against him was delayed; that in obedience to the regulation of the House, he had submitted, on the principle of general convenience, to the day on which the committee to try the petition against him was fixed to be balloted for; that he had as much right to acceleration and preference as another, and if another was so favoured, he should consider it as an indícation that hostilities were determined against him, and as a grievous injury.

Sir Herbert Mackworth said, the arguments of lord Beauchamp were plausible, and had impressed his mind at first very forcibly; but on a re-consideration, he thought, as the House had determined on a particular regulation, that regulation ought to be adhered to most strictly.

Governor Johnstone said, the argument divided itself into two branches; the one, the question, whether the House had a power to accelerate the trial of any petition under any circumstances? The other, whether the circumstances of the Coventry petition were such as justified that sort of acceleration? He decided both these questions in the affirmative; and concluded with saying, that if the Coventry petition was not soon tried, it would be in the power of any returning officer, first by

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2 making no return to a writ, and then by an unfair return to a second, to gain time, and seat for the first year of a parliament, any two persons he thought proper.

Mr. T. Townshend, after mentioning lord Beauchamp's connections with Coventry, said the present motion was an effort of power to save two favourite candidates; and there needed no stronger proof of it, than the extraordinary circumstance of ministers being present, and staying till six or seven in the evening, who had opposed Mr. Grenville's Bill, and who, whenever any question relative to the operation of that Bill was to come on, had constantly kept away from the House.

office, from his great abilities, or from his interest in the borough of Coventry, he could prevail on the House to adopt a discretionary power, in order to obtain a partial exercise of it in favour of the petitioners, it certainly must appear, to the conviction of every man, that the part of the effect of Mr. Grenville's Bill, universally allowed to be the good part, was broke in upon, and violated; and that then matters would be in a train to recur to their old channel, and it would be as much in the power of the minister to become the elector, and to chuse the members of that House, as it ever had been. His hon. friend had gone into a very refined mode of argument, to prove that the returning officer of any borough might seat any two gentlemen that he chose, in that House, for one whole year; to the end of the first session, and possibly for some part of the second; and how had his hon. friend attempted to show that this was likely? Why, by stating it as a case, that a returning officer might do just exactly what had happened in the present instance, namely, make no return to the writ at first, in hopes that when a second writ issued, his successor would be weak and wicked enough to return his two friends by any means, in defiance of right, and in contempt of the House. There was something so strange in the idea of a returning officer procuring any person to be so returned, and something so weak, foolish, and absurd in any gentleman's consenting to come into that House under such circumstances, and take his seat for one year only, that he could as little conceive his hon. friend meant to put the case seriously, as he could conceive that it ever had happened, or ever would happen. With regard to his hon. friend's assertion, that a returning officer had it in his power to make an im

Mr. Solicitor General Mansfield said, that the Act gave the House in express words, in the beginning of it, a discretionary power as to the time of hearing petitions on elections. He then took a review of the allegations contained in the petition, and concluded that the Coventry election was a very extraordinary case, and therefore merited extraordinary attention. Mr. Fox said, that as he had before the adjournment taken some part in the election for Coventry, he should now say something upon the motion, which he must oppose, for this reason; because he did not see any colour of necessity or justice for paying more regard to the petition that had been read that day from Mr. Yeo and lord Sheffield, than had been paid to the various other petitions, which had been presented before the holidays. His hon. friend (Johnstone) had argued very fairly, that the whole argument was reduceable to two points, and those were, first, whether it was right, on any account, to accelerate the trying of an election petition before others were tried, which had been previously presented; and secondly, whether the petition now before them was one of that sort which was entitled to such extra-proper return, and that perhaps some ordinary acceleration? With regard to Mr. Grenville's Bill, he should only state what had always appeared to him, and had been admitted by those who thought of the Bill as he did, that the good of the Bill was, that it took the whole of the election causes out of the House, and gave every petitioner an equal chance of having substantial justice administered to him in the fullest and most impartial manner; and that it put a stop to the exertion of influence and power in favour of one set of petitioners in preference to another. If by the noble lord's influence arising from his distinguished character, from his high

would do so unless the House proceeded to give some mark of their resolution to check such attempts, undoubtedly it was the fact. It was an inconvenience that necessarily belonged to the case of an election, it was inseparable from it, and the only means of putting a stop to such an abuse of trust, was for them immediately to institute an enquiry into the conduct of every returning officer who either neglected to do his duty, or did it negligently and improperly. How happened it in the case of Coventry, that the conduct of the returning officer, who had failed to make a return to the first writ, was not immediately inquired into ?

as returning-officer had no such power: all these were in themselves flagrant crimes; but they were the crimes commonly alleged, and could pass for nothing, till the committee had heard evidence upon them. The learned gentleman who spoke last, said the Coventry election was an extraordinary case, but he was amazed to hear him set out with an attempt to prove, that the petition of lord Sheffield and Mr. Yeo, which contained no extraordinary allegation in itself, and respecting which, the noble lord who made the motion, had stated no one fact of an extraordinary nature to justify his motion, was entitled to preference than the petitions respecting other boroughs. It was too evident, he said, to be contradicted, that the present attempt to accelerate the hearing of lord Sheffield and Mr. Yeo's petition, was made by a noble lord high in office, because the petitioners were favourites of the minister, and agreed with him in political opinions. It was, he declared, an effort of power to commit injustice; an effort which he trusted that House would have the virtue to resist.

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Let gentlemen remember who it was that moved for the issuing of the second writ, previous to such an inquiry's taking place! Let them recollect that he had earnestly pressed for an inquiry, and had strenuously opposed the issuing of a writ for a second election, till the inquiry was gone into and finished, in order that it might be known by the House, to whom they were to ascribe the first failure of a return of members for Coventry!-The question before the House was not whether lord Sheffield and Mr. Yeo, or sir Thomas Halifax and Mr. Rogers, should be the sitting members, but whether the House should adopt a new mode of proceeding in cases of election, and give a preference to the Coventry petition by accelerating the time of it, in prejudice to the parties concerned in every other petition? And here the argument presented itself under its two heads: was it right to accelerate the trial of any petition, and was this one of those petitions entitled to such an acceleration? With regard to the first position, possibly there might be cases in which it would be warrantable for the House to accelerate the trial of one petition before another, but Lord North said, that no insinuations surely the House ought to have proof, of his having an improper regard to one before they went out of the usual road of set of men, in preference to others, should proceeding, that there was a sufficient prevent him from discharging his duty as cause for such a change of the course of a member of that House. It had been justice. Did the petition that had been thrown out, that lord Sheffield and Mr. read, contain a single allegation of a flagrant Yeo were more his favourites than sir T. nature, uncommon from the general tenor Halifax and Mr. Rogers; and that his of other petitions presented to the House presence in the House, when any matter from parties claiming seats? The petition relative to Mr. Grenville's Bill came on, against a learned gentleman, who had with was uncustomary, and therefore liable to great feeling, and with great propriety com- suspicion. Gentlemen were welcome to plained of the injustice of resolving to bal- make the most of such insinuations; but lot for a committee to try the Coventry they should not intimidate him from actpetition, before the House went to a balloting as he had a right to act, nor from givto try the petition presented against him, stated a charge of bribery; bribery, in order to gain a seat, was a very flagrant crime! The petition presented against an hon. friend of his, the member for Stafford, was founded on a charge of the same sort: the crime in both cases was very flagrant; and in both cases the sitting members would doubtless be exceedingly pleased to have the petition against them heard and determined upon as soon as possible. What were the species of allegations generally stated in election petitions? They were these, that the returning officer had suffered bad votes to be sworn, and had rejected good ones: he had been bribed; the voters had been bribed; the return was unjust, or the person who had acted

ing his reasons why he should vote for the motions offered to the House by his noble friend. With regard to the petitioners of Coventry, and the sitting members, they were unknown to him in the consideration which then directed his conduct; they were all worthy and respectable characters, and therefore he felt the less compunction in taking that line which justice and reason so strongly marked out. As to his being present, the House well knew that his presence was necessary for other reasons, than the subject of the motion then before them, and he believed he had less to charge himself with on the score of failure of punctual discharge of his duty by attendance, than almost any member who had sat for so many years in parlia

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ment. The hon. gentleman who spoke | last, had talked of the good of Mr. Grenville's Bill. It was well known, that he was one of the very small minority who divided against that Bill, but he appealed to the House, whether he had, from the moment that the House decided that the Bill should pass, used any indirect means to frustrate its effect, or impede its operations? He had a great respect for it; he believed it had been productive of much good, and the wise and upright conduct and determinations of those gentlemen, who had from time to time sat and acted as judges under it, was at once an incontrovertible proof of its policy and of its justice. That Bill had avowedly two great objects: the one, to assist the public business of the nation, by taking out of the House all election causes, and referring them to another judicature composed of members of parliament; the other, to prevent delay as much as possible in the decision of election claims. Both these were certainly matters ardently to be wished for, and closely to be pursued: the present case, he conceived, came directly under the second point: for what had been the feelings of gentlemen at the time, when his noble friend had moved, that a new writ be issued for Coventry? The facts then ascertained were, that there was no return made for Coventry, the sheriffs having failed to comply with the King's writ. The first consideration of that House in all periods of parliamentary history had been, that the representation of the people should be complete. In special conformity to that idea, his noble friend had moved the writ for a new election; and why had the House agreed to it? Because, the House were convinced that the sheriffs had aimed at delay, and therefore they ordered a new writ to be issued. Hence in the new writ, and not from any motives of partiality and affection, which it was neither decent nor just to allege in comment upon a proceeding of that House in its legislative capacity, it had been argued early in the debate, by a learned gentleman, that the Act, commonly called Mr. Grenville's Act, was to be construed by its spirit, and not merely by its letter. This argument was certainly fair: but would the learned gentleman contend, that the spirit was not to be abstracted from the letter, or that the express letter was to be abandoned in support of an idea of spirit, which the letter of the Act neither countenanced nor sup

ported. The letter of Mr. Grenville's Act expressly gave the House a discretionary power of removing, altering, and postponing the day of trying any petition, as to their wisdom should seem meet. If the spirit of it were construed to imply that the House had a power of postponing the trial of an election cause, but that the House had no power of accelerating such trial, let the case be ever so extraordinary, it would surely be fair to say, that Mr. Grenville's Act was big with more evil than good; that it impeded justice; and that it rather enforced than destroyed delay, the prevention of which was one of its professed objects. The ground on which the motion struck him as highly fit for the adoption of the House, was the obvious aim at delay in the sheriffs, from the beginning to the end of the election. In the first instance, the King's writ had not been complied with, and in the second, if the allegations of the petition were true, they had used every art in their power to gain time, and make as many votes as possible, in order to bring in their own friends at any rate. The hon. gentleman had said, that the sheriffs who presided at the last election and those who made no return to the first writ, were not the same persons; the fact was true, but the hon. gentleman had forgot, that both the sheriffs who made no return, and the sheriffs who were now complained against, were equally members of the corporation of Coventry, and that the struggle evidently lay between the corporation and the independent voters, who should return the members. The hon. gentleman had said besides, that it was nothing, and that it was foolish for any gentleman to accept of a seat upon such terms, or to come into that House for one year only. Was the hon. gentleman serious? What! when he and all the public had heard it so often repeated of late, that parliaments should be annual, that it was an Englishman's birth-right, that no man should sit in parliament more than a year previous to a fresh election, was he to be told, that obtaining a seat for a year, or perhaps for a year and a half, was nothing, or that it was foolish? The hon. gentleman must have forgot himself when he dropped the expression. A learned gentleman had complained in person of the injustice which, he alleged, would be done him, by giving the Coventry petition a preference, in point of order, over that of the petition against him; and another hon. gentleman, not in

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