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Because my wine was of too poor a savour
For one whose palate gladdens in the flavour
Of sparkling Helicon.
CLASSIC.

ber others by name who used regularly to go They are extremely like Whittier in both "colloping and pancaking." My informant matter and form, but I cannot find them in said that he believed Bloody Thursday had his work. F. M. reference to the Garden of Gethsemane, and Nippylug (ear) to the striking off, by Peter, of the ear of the servant of the High Priest; but he was not able to suggest anything by way of explanation of Button-Hole Sunday. This was the last Sunday in the school term. At Eton it is, I believe, the regular usage to leave the last button of the waistcoat unfastened, and I dimly remember something of this myself, though I never heard any reason for the custom.

WM. CLEMENT KENDALL. Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland.

were

Where do the following lines occur?-
The old house by the lindens stood silent in the
And on the gravelled pathway the light and shadow
shade,

played.

St. Margaret's, Malvern.

A. R. BAYLEY.

Where do the following lines occur? I think they are a fragment of a song which was popular between fifty and sixty years ago. They are the words of a dying girl to her lover:

We shall meet, we know not where,
And be blest, we know not how;
Leave me now,
love! leave me now!

K. P. D. E.

[Collop Monday is explained in the 'N.E.D.' as "the day before Shrove Tuesday, on which fried bacon and eggs still form the appropriate dish in many places," the first quotation being from De Foe's Tour Gt. Brit.,' iii. 300 (1769): "The Monday preceding Fastens Even......called every-where in the North Collop Monday, from an immemorial custom there of dining that Day on Eggs and Collops." Smith's American Cyclopædia of Names' says that "collops of salted meat and eggs eaten on the day. For Shrove Tuesday and Ash Wednesday see the Encyclopaedic' and other THE CRUCIFIXION: EARLIEST REPRESENTAdictionaries. At 1st S. x. 87 (1854) it is mentioned TION IN ART.I have been told that the that the Thursday before Easter is called Bloody Catacombs at Rome contain no pictures of Thursday by some in Northumberland. Further the Crucifixion, and that the first representa information is not invited on the first three names.]tion of the scene in art is on the panels of AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. I the door of the church of Sta. Sabina at shall be greatly obliged to any reader who Rome, which is, I believe, of fifth-century can tell me the name of the author of the date. I shall be glad to have this contralines dicted or confirmed. HIPPOCLIDES. LITHUANIAN ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY. Some time ago I saw announced, as "in preparation," a Litauisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch,' by Dr. Zubaty. I shall be glad if any one can tell me who is publishing this, and whether it has appeared, or, failing that, whether there is anything similar already in existence. I possess the excellent Lithuanian English Dictionary,' by Anthony Lalis, but I want something more specially adapted for philological work.

True as the shell

To the old ocean's melancholy swell, quoted in An Appeal from the Shades,' an essay which appeared in The London Magazine for August, 1826, and which was first ascribed to Lamb by Mr. Bertram Dobell in his interesting Sidelights on

Charles Lamb.'

S. BUTTERWORTH.

Who wrote the following lines?—

To see the children sporting on the shore, And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore. They are quoted by Ruskin in his essay on 'Lord Lindsay's Christian Art.' p. 97 of vol. i. part i., On the Old Road'; and by Hazlitt in his essay 'On Living to Oneself.' JAMES WATSON.

Folkestone.

Of these lines- some thirty-five to forty years old, I think I have long, but vainly, tried to find the authorship :

In men whom men condemn as ill
I find so much of goodness still,
In men whom men proclaim divine
I find so much of sin and blot,
I hesitate to draw the line

Between the two where God has not.

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JAS. PLATT, Jun. ing John Read, of King Street, St James, READ FAMILY.-Any information respectWestminster," who married Caroline Mercer at "Mr. Keith's New Chapel, Mayfair," esteemed. He had presumably but one son, 16 February, 1752, would be very highly John, born 29 May, 1754, at King Street, and baptized at St. James's, Westminster. This son died, at the age of ninety-eight, at Woolwich (where he held some appointment at the Royal Military Academy), on 22 January, 1852, and had issue nine sons: William (1780-1827), Lieutenant-General and D.Q.M.G.

at Madras; John (1785-1832), Governor of smith, who died in 1780. The church, H.M. Ordnance, Jamaica; Samuel (1796- resembling an ornate college chapel, still 1863), Chief Naval Constructor at Ports- remains as a monument of departed glory. mouth and Sheerness; Francis Markelean For many years the benefice was held by an (1787-1829), captain in Royal Staff Corps; old friend of mine, and on one occasion I Constantine (1799–?), colonel in Royal Staff assisted him clerically at the church. Corps, Director-General of Public Works in JOHN PICKFOrd, M.A. Corfu, Military Knight of Malta; and four who died in infancy. John Read, of Woolwich, had previously been private secretary to Sir William Congreve in Constantinople, and to Lord Elgin on his "secret expedition" to Egypt. H. V. JERVIS-READ.

The College, Winchester.

HAM HOUSE: CLOSED GATES. - In Stanford's Guide to Surrey,' 1891, edited by R. N. Worth, under the description of Ham House, is the following:

"The magnificent wrought-iron gates on the Ham side of the house......are said to have been never opened since Charles II. made his escape through them from the pursuit of the Roundheads."

On the other hand, I noticed that a society paper not long ago, speaking about these same gates, said:

"The great gates of this famous house have never been opened, it is said, since Charles I. closed them nearly three hundred years ago."

Which of these statements is true? and where is the evidence for either?

Traquair House, near Peebles, has gates said to have been closed since Prince Charles Stuart passed through them in 1745. Does any one know of other instances of closed gates?

Bath.

G. W-N.

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WHITCHURCH, MIDDLESEX.- Can any one kindly inform me why this parish, about half a mile from Edgware, is now persistently so called? In Lewis's Topographical Dictionary' and in the county atlas affixed (1848) it is described and marked as Little Stanmore, in contradistinction to Great Stanmore; whilst in Murray's Hand book' (1895) it is styled Whitchurch, or Little Stanmore.

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Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
DUKE OF GUELDERLAND: DUKE OF
LORRAINE.-The Duke of Guelderland was
staying in London in 1644. I shall be glad

to be referred to sources of information about
him.

I also desire information as to the pedigree of Charles, Duke of Lorraine, his contemporary. LOBUC.

R. Y. "IRISH STOCKE."I have in my possession a small quarto volume thus entitled :

"A Discourse of the Religion | Anciently professed by the Irish and Brittish. By James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh, and Primate of Ireland. London, | Printed by R. Y. for the Partners of the | Irish Stocke. 1631."

At the end of the volume is printed a letter to the Bishop of Meath (as Ussher then was) from "James Rex" expressing “our Princely and gracious thankes," dated Whitehall, 11 January, 1622. I should be much obliged for any information as to R. Y. or the "Partners of the Irish Stocke"

WM. NORMAN.

read lately that Ariel has been pressed into ARIEL.-It appears from a review which I

service as the name of the heroine of a novel. The Ariel of the Bible was a man; the Ariel of The Tempest' is, so far as I remember, never alluded to as feminine. What old authority is there for bestowing the name on women, or for representing the "tricksy sprite" as a girl? As was remarked in N. & Q.' some time ago, it is only recently that angels have been pictured as of the weaker sex. Till quite modern times they were made in the likeness of young beardless men.

Should Ariel be thought of as girlish? Should he not rather resemble the celestial messengers of old, and show a refined and etherealized masculine type?

E. S.

EDMUND TILLESLEY.- Edmund Tillesley, Fellow of St. John's College, Oxford, described in the college books as founder's kin, was appointed to the charge of Northmoor, Oxfordshire, in 1646. Northmoor was Canons, the seat of the princely Duke of then a chaplaincy or curacy served by one of Chandos, was situated in this parish, and in the Fellows of St. John's College (the improthe churchyard may yet be seen the grave priators), who lived in college, but had the of William Powell, the Harmonious Black-use of a set of rooms in Northmoor rectory

farmhouse. Edmund Tillesley was ejected unexplained and inexplicable feat of confrom his fellowship by the Parliamentary densation; the walks, as in the Lookingvisitors in 1648, and was probably deprived Glass House, all lead back to the front door, of the charge of Northmoor in the same in whatever direction one goes; and the year. In 1654, when the earliest extant fairy's escape from the hero on a perspective register at Northmoor begins, one John plane is very suggestive of the chessboard Nixon had taken his place. Can any one world on which Alice looks down. supply information about the later career of FORREST MORGAN. Edmund Tillesley, and particularly the date of his death? He had clearly forfeited by marriage (between 1648 and 1656) the right to return to his fellowship at the Restoration, as his son Richard was born, according to Merchant Taylors' School Register, 12 September, 1657. OXONIENSIS.

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"RATTLING GOOD THING." Though the meaning of the phrase is apparent to every one, what is the origin of it? A rattling trap is next door to a broken-down one. It appears one of the expressions accidentally current, like "I have had a clipping time of it," which every one understands, and no one can explain. R. B. Upton.

KNIGHTLEY FAMILY.-In Debrett's 'Baronetage,' 1839, the name of Elizabeth is given as that of the third child of "Richard Knightley, of London (and afterwards of Fawsley, Esq., on the extinction of male issue of his uncles), by Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Walden, Esq., a judge in the island of Barbados."

Did this Elizabeth marry? Are there any old baronetages giving the female descendants of the Knightley family, with their marriages? H. D.

DIGBY.-Charles Pridham, in his 'Kossuth and Magyar Land' (London, 1851), describes "the untimely fate of that noble youth," "the gallant Digby," who in 1848-9 served in the Austrian army against the Hungarians, and was shot on refusing to surrender (p. 220); but our author does not state where and when the sharp rencontre in question took place. Can anybody help me to identify the young English officer? L. L. K.

LEWIS CARROLL AND CHARLES NODIER. Has it ever been noted that Lewis Carroll was probably indebted to Nodier's 'La Fée des Miettes for the suggestion of a few of his "properties"? not in the least their substance or action or wit, but the form or name. The hero of Nodier's book is a lunatic carpenter; the jury which tries him for an imaginary murder is composed of animals and birds; the fairy's house is a Noah's Ark toy-house, into which they enter by some

Hartford, Conn.

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MOZARABIC MASS IN SPAIN. In the "Devocionario Muzárabe, ó Modo Práctico de decir y oír la Santa Misa según este Rito ....por D. Jorge Abad Pérez " (Toledo, 1903), one is surprised to read, on p. x in the 'Prólogo,' "este Rito, una de las glorias mayores de España y de Toledo, toda vez que no hay otra capilla en el mundo, donde se alabe y adore á Dios con esta liturgia." One has always understood that, far from the "Capilla Muzárabe" in the Cathedral Church of Toledo being the only place where that beautiful rite is perpetuated, it exists in those churches in the same diocese which are under the patronage of "el Cabildo Avila, Salamanca, and Laragoza. Which is Muzárabe," as well as in the cathedrals of the best history in English of this old Spanish form of worship?

EDWARD S. DODGSON.

NORTH-WEST SOMERSET AND COMBE SYDEN-
HAM.-Can any one tell me where I can find
sketches of North-West Somerset and Combe
Sydenham ?
SYDENHAM SLADEN.

69, Ridgmount Gardens, W.C.

Beylies.

REBUS IN CHURCHES.

(10th S. v. 188.)

Or the rebus Camden says that it was held in such high esteem by our forefathers "that he was nobody who could not hammer out of his name an invention by this witcraft, and picture it accordingly" (Remains concerning Britain,' 1870, p. 178). Dallaway again, quoting Camden, says that the practice was so much approved by ecclesiastics that almost every bishop and abbot had his rebus, although entitled to hereditary coat armour (Heraldic Enquiries,' 1793, p. 121).

Whether the motto of the Bacon family in Somersetshire occurs as a rebus in any of the Somersetshire churches one cannot say ; but "Pro Ba-con Scientia" had the double advantage of reading as "Proba conscientia " and "Pro Bacon Scientia."

"Forte scutum salus ducum" is the motto

of Fortescue on a tablet in the south aisle of Little Cressingham Church, Norfolk.

Possibly MR. CURTIS is aware that on an altar-tomb in the chancel of Swaffham Church there are four shields, bearing respectively I. Three sacramental cups with wafers, shield of the Blessed Sacrament. II. Shield of the Holy Trinity. III. Three boats. IV. Three wimbles. Of these, Nos. III. and IV. form a rebus, wimbles being instruments essential to a wright or worker in wood. The tomb is that of John Botewright, D.D. (Church Heraldry of Norfolk,' by the Rev. Edmund Farrer, 1885, p. 96). The Rev. John Collinson, in his Hist. and Antiq. of Somerset,' 1791, vol. ii. p. 198, says that Bishop Beckington, who was a native of the village of that name, took for his device, still to be seen in many parts of Wells, a beacon with a tun.

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In St. Alban's Abbey the tomb of Abbot Whethamstead is commemorative of his great services in the repairing and embellishment of the fabric, as well as of his abbacy, and bears representations of ears of wheat, in allusion to his name; while Abbot Ramryge's tomb bears the carvings of rams with the syllable "rydge" carved on their collars. Similarly, the Abbot of Ramsey's rebus was a ram in the sea.

Roger de Sempringham, Prior of Malton, circa 1189, is probably rebussed in the inscription which may be seen on the capital of a column in the north wall of the church of Old Malton, in Yorkshire. It is only part of the original inscription, and of what there is, a part is purposely inverted apparently.

On the central tower of Canterbury Cathedral is sculptured the rebus of John Morton, Archbishop of Canterbury from 1486 to 1500, consisting of the letters MOR and a tun (Britton's Cath. Antiq.,' Canterbury, p. 39). Mr. H. W. Rolfe exhibited at a meeting of the British Archæological Association on 26 Jan., 1853, a portion of painted glass from Canterbury containing a rebus which consisted of a robin in a tree, with the letters R. T. (Robin Tree).

A rebus consisting of a church, or kirk, above a cask or tun, over the postern of the gateway forming the entrance to the Deanery of Peterborough, has led to the supposition that the gateway was erected by Robert Kirton or Kirkton, Abbot of Peterborough.

Camden's 'Remains,' p. 179, says that the "picture on glass of Roger Wall, Dean of Lichfield, kneeling before our Lady, was in a south window there, close by a fair embattled wall (under which, near to him, sate a Roe-buck, with GER written on his side), this Distich in a scroule coming from his mouth:

Gignens virgo Deum; decus, Lux, & Flos mulierum Digneris Murum semper servare Rogerum."

Mr. Norris Deck, in a paper read at the Cambridge gathering of the Archæological Institute in 1854, gave as other examples the names of such ecclesiastics as Goldstone, Nailheart, Silkstede, and Winchcombe, all forming rebuses (Literary Gazette, 15 July, 1854, p. 660). John Newland or Naileheart, Abbot of St. Augustine's, near Bristol, in 1510, bore upon the "escocheon" in his seal a human heart proper pierced with five nails, in allusion both to the quinque vulnera and to his own surname. See James Dallaway in his 'Heraldic Enquiries,' 1793, p. 121.

In a stained-glass window in the chapel at Lullingstone, in Kent, where there are some splendid monuments of the Peche and Hart families, occur the arms of Sir John Peche, the lord deputy, who is represented also in an elaborate monument as a knight in armour in a recumbent posture. These arms consist of a lion rampant surrounded by a garland of peach-branches, the fruit bearing the letter é, which in French would form Péchée.

In one of the windows of the chapel of Our Lady in Gloucester Cathedral is the rebus, in the form of a comb and "ton," of Thomas Compton, Abbot of Cirencester. In other instances a tun or barrel occurs with the comb.

The rectory house of Buckland, in Gloucestershire, 5 miles from Chipping Norton, was built in 1520 by William Grafton, who was then rector, and whose darce (?) or rebus, the graft of a tree issuing from a tun, is displayed in one of the hall windows.

Those which do not occur in churches are perhaps innumerable-those of the early typographers, for instance, like Middleton, or like Harrison in Southwark, who hung out his sign of the "Hare and Sun," to say nothing of the armes parlantes in heraldry. Of the use of rebuses in a remote period of antiquity MR. CURTIS is probably well J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. Hazelmere, Tooting Common.

aware.

In Garsington Church, Oxfordshire (chancel, north side), there is a window with the following device. A shield has a border round it, making small squares in each corner. In the top right hand is a P; left hand, F; bottom, S. In the centre is another small square with the letter D. The borders contain the words "Non est " three times; and from each corner to the centre are parallel lines containing the word "est." P=Pater, F=Filius, S-Spiritus, D= Deus.

So the borders read, "Pater non est Filius; Filius non est Spiritus; Spiritus non est Pater"; and from the corners to the centre the inscriptions correspondingly read, "Pater est Deus: Filius est Deus; Spiritus est Deus." The manor belonged to Trinity College, Oxford; hence this explanation in rebus form. I may mention that I have not seen it myself; a drawing of it was given to me by Mr. R. H. Gretton, of Magdalen College, Oxford. HAROLD G. DANIELS. Press Club.

In Eton College Chapel, on the stone screen leading into the chantry known as Lupton's Chapel, on one side is the letter R (for Roger), and on the other LUP on a tun (for Lupton). R. A. A. L.

Consult Camden's 'Remains concerning Britain' for James Denton, Dean of Lichfield, in Lichfield Cathedral.

Consult Cussans's 'Handbook of Heraldry' for Abbot Islip, in Westminster Abbey (with illustration). CHAS. A. BERNAU.

An interesting specimen of these rebuses is to be seen in Manchester Cathedral, where there are two carvings, one representing a man hunting, the other a tun. They form mementoes of John Huntington, the first Warden of Manchester Collegiate Church (1422-58), who rebuilt part of the church. He was also rector of Ashton-under-Lyne, and a carved pun on his name is said to exist in the misereres in the church there.

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SAXON KINGS: LIVING DESCENDANTS (10th S. v. 189).-Some families, such as the Stourtons, have claimed descent from Saxon thanes, but the absurdity of such pretensions has been conclusively demonstrated by Mr. J. H. Round in his Studies in Peerage and Family History.' As for the Huddlestons, in the first authority that I can lay my hands on, Burke's 'Landed Gentry,' 1875, it is stated that,

"according to the York Manuscript, the Hodelstons derived their name from Hodelston, in Yorkshire, where they were seated for several generations antecedently to the Conquest. The pedigree begins with an Adam, and proceeds through four subsequent descents (Adam, son of

Adam; John, son of Adam; Richard, son of John; Richard, son of Richard), all in Saxon times, to Nigel de Hodelston," &c.

There is no mention of any Athelstan, and it is clear that Huddleston is a local name. The reputation of a very ancient house is not enhanced by fables of this description and it may be taken for granted that no documents exist which can prove the descent of any English family from Anglo-Saxon times. W. F. PRIDEAUX.

My family descend from Gospatric, Earl of Dunbar :

Etheldred II. Elfleda.

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Alan de Lancy Curwen, of
Workington Hall.'

Wordsworth's eldest son married my aunt Isabella Curwen, and on the birth of her first child he wrote:

Whose youth revered the crown
Of Saxon liberty that Alfred wore-
Alfred, dear babe, thy great progenitor.
ALFRED F. CURWEN.

NEW MOON: FORTUNATE OR UNFORTUNATE (10th S. v. 185).-The writer of the epistle mentioned under this head was James Gaffarel (or Gaffarelli), the author of the celebrated work on talismans and cabalistic planispheres entitled Curiositez Inouyes,' &c., published in French in 1650 (no place of publication Chilmead was published in London in the given on title). An English translation by childbirth is treated of in chap. xi. of this The influence of the moon of E. E. STREET. work.

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"Doc's NOSE" (10th S. v. 187).-Beyond the passage in 'Pickwick' referred to by MR. RATCLIFFE, I cannot discover any autho ritative receipt for this old-fashioned compound. The earliest authority for it which is given in 'Slang and its Analogues' is Vaux's

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