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Commerce was broken up, and the supplies so utterly failed that the privation and distress was great, as the journal of the Congress during that period will prove.

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interruptions. The article rose to an extravagant price, selling in many parts of the country at more than five dollars the bushel, (as he had been well informed, here and elsewhere,) and at five and a half dollars the sack The price became so great that even the Government in the cities, as a document before him testified. This could not obtain it for the army; and I need state no oth-fresh_experience restored men to their senses, and

er fact to show that it was out of the reach of the poor, who were obliged to yield to the distressing privation. In July, 1775, Congress raised a committee of thirteen, "to inquire into the easiest and cheapest method of making salt in the colonies."

In December, 1775, "Resolved, That as the importation of any universally necessary commodity, and the exportation of our produce to purchase the same, must give a proportionally greater opportunity to our enemies of making depredations on the property of the inhabitants of these colonies, and of occasionally distressing them by intercepting such commodities, it is earnestly recommended to the several assemblies or conventions immediately to promote, by sufficient public encouragements, the making salt in their respective colonies."

June 3, 1777,"Resolved, That a committee of three be appointed, to devise ways and means for supplying the United States with salt."

June 13, 1777, "Resolved, That it be recommended to the several States to offer such liberal encouragement to persons importing salt as they shall judge will be effectual," &c.

"That it be recommended to the several States to erect and encourage, in the most liberal and effectual manner, proper works for the making of salt."

These are some of the resolves of that distinguished body, which indicate the grievous scarcity of that article, and the privation and suffering both in and out of the army in consequence of it.

In response to this public demand, he said he was informed that the works upon Cape Cod, in Massachusetts, were commenced, and have been continued from thence down to this time. They, therefore, had this early origin in an appeal to the patriotic to meliorate the sufferings of their countrymen.

When the Federal Government went into operation, in 1789, under the constitution, the first work of Congress, after providing the forms of the oaths necessary to organization, was to pass that memorable act with this preamble: "Whereas it is necessary, for the support of Government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares, and merchandise imported: Be it enacted," &c. This act imposed a duty on salt of six cents a bushel. The duty, therefore, which the Senator from from Missouri [Mr. BENTON] has condemned as odious, and assigned it to the administration of Mr. Adams, as if that cast upon it additional infamy, was the first act of the first Congress under George Washington. In 1790 it was raised to twelve cents, and in 1797 to twenty cents. Odious as it was represented to be, it was continued until 1807, the last year of Mr. Jefferson's administration, when it was all removed, and salt was imported free of duty. Twentyfive years had then elapsed since the revolutionary war, and the privations and distress of that period had faded out of the memories of men; and with this oblivion of the past they forgot the occasion which had excited the public to encourage home production. The country passed on till 1813, when the duty of twenty cents a bushel was restored, and so continued till 1830. The embargo, the non-intercourse acts, and the late war, brought a new pressure upon the country, and fresh suffering, which again reminded the people that salt was an article indispensable to their comfort, and that the supplies by commerce were uncertain and liable to

brought them back to the policy of the Revolution; consequently, when the double duties after the war were repealed, that upon salt was left in full force, doubtless to encourage the production.

Fifteen years elapsed, scarcity and high prices were again forgotten, and the necessity of domestic production was again overwhelmed by the very argument used to enforce its expediency. The manufacture was urged, because salt was necessary to all, under all circumstances, and stood upon the same footing as lead, powder, ordnance, arms, and all things necessary to the defence of the country. These, it was said, we should produce ourselves, and rest our dependence upon no foreign nation for supply, as it would be manifestly unwise to trust to the uncertain resources of commerce for the means to defend our country against invasion. Equally unwise was it considered to rely upon a source which had, and doubtless would again, fail us, when commerce should be interrupted from any cause, for an article so necessary as salt. While, therefore, the duty was imposed because the article was one of prime necessity, it was repealed, in part, in 1830, for precisely the same reason. It was then urged, as it now is, that, because all must use it, it ought not to be taxed, but to come in free, though it should destroy the manufactures which had been reared up at a great outlay of capital, and in obedience to the urgent call of the Government itself. The act of 1830 reduced the duty five cents in that year, and five cents in the succeeding year, bring. ing it down to ten cents, where it stood when the act of 1833 passed, and then it fell under the reducing process of that act. The duty is now eight cents, and next December will fall to seven and a very small fraction.

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Such is the history of legislation here upon salt. proves conclusively that the manufacture is of long standing, and has had the countenance of the Government as deserving protection.

He would now prove its magnitude, as far as he could, by such evidence as he could find on the files here; for he had had no opportunity to hear from those interested, who were at work peaceably at home, and unconscious of the efforts suddenly made here to overthrow them.

The consumption of the country in 1831 was ascertained to be about 10,000,000 bushels, five and a half of which were imported, and the residue, four and a half, produced. The consumption now must be nearly, if not quite, 12,000,000; but the imports for the year ending September, 1835, rise a little above 5,000,000, and, consequently, the domestic production is equal to about 7,000,000 bushels. The capital in 1831 was estimated at about $8,000,000; and, as the production has nearly doubled, the capital now employed doubtless equals $10,000,000 or $12,000,000. The chairman of the committee estimates the duty at 80 per cent. In this I think he is mistaken, as it is manifestly less; but this is not material, as it is admitted on all hands to be more than 20 per cent., and is therefore strictly embraced as a protected article by the terms of the compromise act. And the question is, shall it be abandoned? Is it the purpose of those who go for this measure to disregard that act? If so, then we understand your policy, and, for one, I am happy to see it disclosed.

But is the country prepared for this step? The idea has gone extensively abroad that the compromise act was to be regarded as disposing of these matters for some years to come. The President, in his message,

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and the Secretary of the Treasury, in his annual report, have both so viewed the matter, and so proclaimed to the nation. The public is therefore at this moment reposing in tranquillity, not anticipating this action, and not prepared to meet it. Is it just, under these circumstances, to affect deeply an interest which has been maturing for more than half a century, and now affords you the best article of the kind in the country? Shall the people engaged in this business be condemned unheard? Will you not let them have an opportunity to prove that they are entitled to your forbearance? I (said be) ask it in their behalf, and, in fairness, it ought to be extended them. But, reasonable as this request is, I foresee that it will be overruled; and this measure will go through this body. It requires no spirit of prophecy to foretell that an important consequence will follow it. The repeal of the law giving a bounty to those engaged in the cod fishery will follow. This is an old policy, almost coeval with the Government; but it stands on two foundations-on two legs-and, if you cut away one, the superstructure will fall. It rests on the desire of this Government to create a nursery of seamen, by encouraging them to pursue the fishery; and the bounty is further justified, on the ground that the duty on salt ought to be reimbursed.

The manufacture of salt and the cod fishery are carried on by the same population, and at the same ports and places; not that the same individuals are engaged in both branches, but having a soil naturally unproductive, they draw their living from the resources of the sea. It is, as I am informed, the business upon which many mariners who have spent the most vigorous period of their lives in hard and perilous service retire, and employ their capital, to enable them to live comfortably.

Now, sir, I have seen enough of things here to satisfy my mind that, if the duty on salt is taken away, the bounty will follow; for those who have no sympathy with the fishermen will claim this as a matter of right.

Such, sir, is the selfishness of our natures, that, when we are interested to forget the gallant deeds, the heroic achievements, the privations and sufferings, of those who have saved the country from dishonor, and won for it an imperishable name, are obliterated from the mind. Why do you wish for seamen? Why desire to increase their number? Because, in the hour of national peril, they stand on the frontier, and interpose their shield between us and the conflict. They are a living wall along the Atlantic, behind which we take shelter. On them it has been our policy to rely; to them we confide our honor, and at no time have they abused the great trust. Must we break down this policy? Has the period arrived when the people are so imbued with the spirit of avarice, that we grudge this little pittance to the gallant tars of our country? You have taken from them all the Little navigating privileges which they had. You have narrowed, by the last treaty, their fishing ground; and this, and this alone, remains to them. If it must be sacrificed also, be it so. Go on with your policy; take away this 250,000 dollars, or whatever the sum is; take it from the sailors, and give it to your ostentatious fleet, fitting out to explore unknown regions; take the bread from them, and bestow it upon those who are sent out in pursuit of glory! And, while you do this, to make your injustice the more manifest, carry your land bill through the other House, and bestow upon favored individuals your public lands, worth three or four hundred millions of dollars. Do it, and, unjust and ungenerous as it is, the lofty-spirited sailor will scorn to entreat any favor at your hands. He will leave this to those who have smoother tongues and more pliant knees.

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such contemptible spirit. Their sympathies are all with the sailor; they glory in his generous spirit, his noble achievements, his patriotic devotion, his disinterested benevolence, his lofty American character; for the sailor is poor, and labors for the bread he eats. The poor demand no sacrifice of his rights in their name or for their benefit. The poor only ask of you that you would pursue towards them an American policy-a policy which will give them good wages for their labor-and they will take care of themselves. They entreat of you not to degrade them into the deplorable condition of the miserable population of foreign countries, by reducing their wages to the same standard. Can any truth be more apparent than that, where wages are lowest, there is the most poverty and there the most suffering? The whole history of man proves this. What makes the condition of the laborer so eminently prosperous here? How is it that he enjoys not only great physical but moral comforts and blessings, to an extent surpassing that of the laborer in any other country whatever? It is because he is better paid. Now, sir, if you would degrade this population, if you would assimilate it to that of Ireland, then reduce its wages to the same standard, and you will accomplish your object. Break down the business in which it is employed, by subjecting it to direct competition with foreign pauperism; lessen the demand for labor, by introducing foreign productions instead of our own, and like causes will produce like effects. You will then have as poor and wretched a population as that against which it will, in such circumstances, contend for bread. But I will not here pursue the subject. The laborers, I trust, know their interests, and will take care of them. They shall, at all times, have my most hearty co-operation.

But what is this boon which the Senator from Missouri proposes to give to the poor, at the expense of the sailor? The whole revenue derived from salt is rather less than half a million of dollars. Now, divide this among the whole population of the country, rich and poor, equally, and what is it, if every soul should pay an equal sum? Less than three cents a head. And does he seriously believe the poor to be so selfish as to desire this, when such a result is to follow? If he thinks the poor are mean-spirited or avaricious, he mistakes their character: they are not to be tempted to be instrumental in perpetrating a wrong, under such a delusion as this. He mistakes their character and sentiments, and does them great injustice. They ask no such favors, and are the advocates of no such measures. Nothing can be further removed from my views of a wise policy than to tax the poor. I desire no such thing, and they shall have every effort of mine to relieve them from all burdens, as far as it lies in my power. But I would not take from them an ounce, to lay upon them the greater weight of a pound. I would not relieve them from an annual tax of three or four cents, and thereby introduce a policy that would soon call for the sacrifice of half their earnings. I can have no desire but that of their prosperity; no interest that is not theirs also. If they suffer, I must suffer with them. If they prosper, I may hope to participate in it; for a common prosperity is felt by all the com munity.

If this sacrifice must be made, forbear, I entreat you, to wrong the poor so much as to do it in their name. Strike at the protection of the salt works; take away the bounty on the fisheries, if your policy requires it; leave no proofs behind you that you respect the character or the occupation of the sailor; and still he has a manly spirit that will triumph over it all; he will live without it; and, I doubt not, the patriotic ardor of his honest heart will remain unquenched.

But this is not the only thing this bill aims at, as I stated yesterday, when I moved to strike from it olive oil.

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it may be permitted to, I hope this adjustment will take place, and public harmony follow upon it, giving to the Union new strength and vigor. With feelings and sen timents of this kind, it seems to me the North has forborne to disturb or to complain of the compromise act, but have acquiesced thus far in its provisions. They are, in no respect, responsible for this movement.

We have another great fishery, which employs a vast the Southern and Northern industry be all placed upon a capital, and about 12,000 seamen. There are now, as I footing that would secure to it a stable and enduring am informed by one engaged in the business, 506 ships prosperity. I thought I saw the dawnings of such an afloat in the whaling business, estimated to be worth era, a gradual conviction gaining upon the public mind about $15,000,000, and their returns estimated at the that the prosperity of the North and the South might exprobable value of from twenty-two to twenty-five mil-ist in harmony. When a proper time comes, as I trust lions. This, like the cod fishery, is carried on as a partnership, each sailor being interested in the voyage. The fishermen have thought the duty on olive oil to be useful to them, as it comes in competition with theirs. They have thought it reasonable that it should be kept on, as our oil is subjected to very heavy duties in Europe. Of the extent of this advantage I am not able to judge, as I have had no opportunity since this bill came before the Senate to learn the views of those interested. It is, however, enough for me to know they have heretofore thought it important. It is all they ask, and the whole revenue derived from it is $23,000. It may affect them injuriously, and therefore it seems to me unwise to take it off. Is it not most judicious first to learn the facts? The men engaged in this business are high-minded and honorable, and, if they cannot make out the propriety of the course, they will not ask you to adhere to it. But I must be permitted to ask why these two navigating interests are selected from all the branches of industry, for this experiment? Are they the least worthy of regardthe least important-the least meritorious? Your legis. lation has long been tending towards subjecting the navigation of the country to the severest possible competition. One privilege after another has been removed, until we have now reached the last, and there seems to be an impatience to tear them away. With what justice can you call on the navigator to pay duties on duck, on iron, and many other articles which he consumes large. ly, and take from him these little compensations? If they must be removed, be it so. Let the decree go forth; but I hope some reason will be assigned for it.

I know it is said, and said truly, that we have too much revenue. And while I admit it ought to be reduced, and am as anxious as any gentleman on this floor to accomplish it by this bill, still I cannot resist the conviction that there ought to be something like reciprocal justice in the policy; and if certain interests are selected, while others are left, there ought to be some reason for it. The system of protection embraces the whole industry. It is an entire thing, for the benefit of all; and when you lose sight of that view, it becomes partial and unjust. It contains in itself a compensating principle, that is designed to do justice to all; and if you take that away, you cannot fail to create discontent, and to weaken the interests which are not attached. There is no more sure way of reducing wages than to assault each branch of industry in detail, and by that policy bring those who ought to be united to war one upon another. Those who produce iron claim protection; but with what propriety can they ask for the countenance of the navigators, who consume it largely, if they take away what goes to protect and foster the navigating interest? The laborers, and by laborers I mean all who work, must stand together and protect one another, or they will be made the victims of a policy that will bring them to a level with those who struggle for existence in Europe. They must not be deluded, by little promised advantages, to adopt a course that will be ruinous.

I have been looking forward to the time when this great matter would be disentangled from politics and politicians; when the fervor of excitement would subside, and the public mind become tranquil; when the two great contending parties would see what is undeniably true-that an exclusive policy, adapted to one part of the country, and one alone, can never meet with public approbation; when this great subject would be approached in a spirit of mutual concession and forbearance, and

The proposition now is to make salt free. This is not a modification, but a total abandonment of the interest. We have in Massachusetts a capital of about two millions of dollars invested in a great number of works, exposed as much as capital can be in any part of the country to all the fluctuations of price arising from heavy importations. You are about to remove all protection, and leave it to its fate. This is what Great Britain dare not do with her strongest interests. She does not venture upon such a measure with articles which she exports to a vast amount, for the plain reason that a state of things may exist in other countries, from an excess of production, or from pecuniary distress or embarrassment, which may induce them to export at a loss. If such goods or merchandise can come in free in large quantities, even for a short period, prices are greatly reduced, and ruin follows, without any permanent benefit; for prices go back after the mischief is done, and the causes which created it have subsided. It can never, therefore, be wise, when you mean to give stability to business, to suffer it to be thus exposed to all the fluctuations of foreign distress and embarrassment. Let your own citizens have the benefit of some protection, even if it be small, to enable them to withstand such contingent shocks, which constantly occur in commerce. From sixty per cent. to nothing is a long, and, I fear, a hazardous stride as well as bad policy. All goods can never be free, unless the mode of raising rev enue is changed. Why should the policy be reversed as to salt? Has it been unwise? Look at the prices since the reduction of duty, and see whether any such great advantages as are predicted will follow. If the works here are destroyed, I will hazard the opinion that the average price of salt will be fully equal to what it has been.

I am aware, however, that the works on the seacoast are in a different condition from the great works of the interior. The latter have all the benefit of a long and expensive transportation, which is equivalent to a strong protection against the foreign article. The manufactu rers, therefore, of the interior, have comparatively little cause to complain or to be alarmed; and probably this is the reason why our interest is so little regarded.

The Senator from Missouri [Mr. BENTON] expressed himself highly gratified at what he described as the unexpected magnanimity of New York, and the patriotic sacrifice made by her of her great interest in this manufacture, for the public good. It seems that his venerable friend (Mr. Macon, of North Carolina) had on some former occasion despaired of ever throwing off this duty, because of the great interest of the empire State. When this bill was brought in, the Senator from Missouri took an early occasion to congratulate his friend upon such signal disinterestedness. Now, if the Senator and his venerable friend had looked into this matter, and better informed themselves, they would have spared me the trouble of proving that this matter affords little occasion for compliment or the high commendation bestowed upon it. The works of New York are far interior, upon and near her great canal. She holds in her own band the key that unlocks the gates of this highway, and ex

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acts a toll upon all foreign salt, which so entirely prohibits it from entering the country that it is utterly excluded; and New York secures to her works not only a complete monopoly of the market of her great interior West, but of the vast country on the lakes, extending thousands of miles. If this information, which I derive from sources that may be relied on, is incorrect, the Senator from that State can inform the Senate. This monopoly is so exclusive, that the State levies an excise of six cents a bushel on the manufactured article at her own works, and puts the money into her treasury. This bill does not, therefore, touch the works of New York, or affect the interest of her citizens in the slightest degree. She can, therefore, very well afford to make such sacrifices, in which she gets commendation for her magnanimity, while we are the victims. The Senate and the country will now understand how to appreciate this magnanimity.

The Senator from Missouri has offered another reason in support of this measure, which I will also notice, for its singular character. He says the business is in the hands of regraters, a term, though not unknown, yet nearly so in commerce. Regraters are traders, persons who buy and sell; and the Senator thinks this would be broken | up if the duty should be repealed. I know not what his expectations are, nor what his ideas in regard to trade are, but he must have come near to the conclusion that it is criminal to buy and sell. What does the Senator desire? What does he aim at? Are people to be deprived of the liberty of traffic? Must they come here, and, bowing themselves down, humbly ask permission to do ordinary business? If a man is engaged in the common pursuits of life, is he to be denounced and condemned, loaded with opprobrious epithets, and held up to scorn? Is it not one of the first and highest principles of public liberty, that all persons may engage in lawful pursuits? Where is this intermeddling with private concerns to end? Is this Government to pry into individual concerns, to ascertain how much and in what way men do business? To give this man permission to go on, that to enlarge, and order another to diminish? No people of spirit could for a moment bear this arbitrary interfer

ence.

But suppose it is true that there are regraters, specu lators who buy and sell, and the public are craftily played upon by their artful contrivances, how will removing the duty remedy this evil? Will the power of regrating be taken away or impaired? What is to hinder their operating upon salt free of duty as effectually as upon that subject to duty' Let the Senator assign a reason if he can. The proposition shows at once that none can be assigned. This remedy for such an evil may therefore be set down as extraordinary.

Again: that Senator has taken much pains to speak of the low price of salt in foreign countries, showing that it may be purchased in some places at three cents a bushel. But, while he stated this, be omitted to state another fact, that we import no salt, or substantially none, that costs so small a sum. The tables of imports which lie before me settle this matter. The importation of 1835 may be taken as a sample of all other periods. The amount was 5,375,000 bushels; of this, 3,800,000 came from England and her dependencies; of the remaining million and a half, about one million from Portugal. By far the larger portion of salt comes direct from Liverpool, and is estimated to cost there, in the document before me from the Treasury, fifteen cents. It is, as every body knows, an inferior article to the salt of Cape Cod, which is made by solar evaporation. The reason of this is manifest. Our great exporting trade goes to England, and the homeward freights are comparatively cheap, and the price of salt will always depend much upon the activity of that trade, and the consequent occasions vessels have

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for ballast or homeward cargoes. The statement of the Senator, therefore, if taken without explanation or qual ification, would mislead the public mind.

Sir, twelve cents of the duty has been removed, and although the last three years have been very great exporting years, and consequently very favorable to a strong reduction of price, yet no reduction has been experienced, approaching to the predictions made when the law of 1830 was passed. This has probably served to perplex the Senator. If this bill should affect, as it probably will, the manufacture here injuriously, the trade will only be more fluctuating than it has been, while little or nothing will be gained in the average price.

I have, sir, felt it to be my duty to say thus much in vindication of the interests of a portion of my constituents, and of the principles which guide me in voting here. And I repeat that I am anxiously desirous to throw no unnecessary obstacle in the way of this bill. I approve of nearly the whole of it, and hope it will take a form that I can vote for it. I cannot, however, be reconciled to an act which selects our interests, and especially our navigation, for experiments. Let us have equal and exact justice, and we are content; for we ask no local or special privileges. If I do not mistake the facts, I think I have proved all I proposed to establish; and with this vindication of our rights I leave the matter to the judgment of the Senate.

Mr. BENTON rose, and went into an argument at some length in reply, to prove that the bounty on the cod fishery rested wholly on the duty upon salt, and that there would be no ground for continuing it after the duty was repealed.

Mr. DAVIS observed that he was gratified with the frankness of the Senator, for some discredited him when he said the repeal of the bounty law would follow this act. He thought he did not misunderstand the hints which were thrown out, and he now had the best evidence that he did not. He would, however, on a proper occasion, show that the bounty was for other purposes besides reimbursing the duty on salt. He could establish this, but he feared it would avail the fishermen nothing. Mr. CALHOUN rose and addressed the Senate as follows:

The annunciation by the chairman of the Committee on Finance, that this bill was framed and introduced on the assumption that the act of 1833 was no longer to be respected, gave to it an importance which demanded the most serious consideration. That act closed the tariff controversy between the North and the South; and the question now presented is, shall it again be opened? Shall we reopen a controversy which, during the long period from 1821 to 1833, agitated the country, governed its legislation, controlled the presidential elections, and finally shook its institutions to the centre? Shall we of the South, in particular, assent to open this formidable controversy--we who are, on this subject, in a permanent minority? Shall we agree to surrender our share of interest in the act of 1833--an act which has already repealed from twenty to twenty-five millions of duties annu. ally, and which, if left undisturbed, will in a few years take off ten more, and reduce the duties to the constitutional and legitimate wants of the Government? Will we agree to surrender all of these advantages, which were extorted from the adverse interest at the hazard of civil conflict, and take our chance in the renewed conflicts which must follow, if the controversy be again opened? This the chairman of the Committee on Finance asks you to do; and what is the compensation he holds out to you for such great sacrifices?

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tion to the amount of $2,400,000 annually; but of these that they shall respect ours, when they become the subthe larger portion are duties under twenty per cent. adject of discussion. If we should now vote to repeal or valorem, which by the act may be repealed without disturbing the compromise; and the residue, with the exception of salt, and perhaps on one or two other articles, are either of a doubtful character, or can be repealed by common consent of all the interests involved. Here, then, is the great boon which is proffered by the Senator, [Mr. WRIGHT,] to induce us to sacrifice our interest in the act of 1833; to magnify which, he has pronounced an eulogium on the magnanimous course of the State of New York, in assenting to the repeal of the duty on salt; of which article, he tells us, she manufactures more than any other State, while he forgets to inform us that she has little or no interest in the repeal, as she has secured a monopoly in favor of her manufacture by the imposition of an enormous duty on the transportation of salt on her canals, through which channel only the imported can come in competition with the manufactured salt. The question now to be decided is, shall we accept the boon, and make the sacrifice?

I acknowledge the duty to be odious and unequal, but I must think, as much so as it may be, we should purchase its repeal too dearly by the sacrifice we are asked to make. Regarded as a mere pecuniary transaction, and laying aside all political considerations, we would not be justified. The duty on salt amounts, as I have stated, to upwards of half a million annually, while the average reduction of duties under the act of 1833 will not be less than two millions annually, for the next five years, all of which we may reasonably expect will be taken off, if, on our part, we firmly adhere to the act. But this is altogether too strong a statement of the case on the side of repeal.

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The Senator, in his eagerness to magnify the oppressive character of the duty on salt, stated it to be ten cents the bushel, overlooking the fact that the act of 1833 has already reduced it below eight cents, and that it will in a short time reduce it below three, if it be left undisturbed; so that the real question is not between a repeal and a permanent continuance of the duty at ten cents, as the Senator would bave us believe, but between a sudden repeal of eight cents, and a gradual reduction, in the course of a few years, to the low rate of duty I have stated. is, in fact, substantially a question between a sudden and a gradual repeal; and, regarded in that light, I would submit to the judicious of all parties which is the preferable, viewed in the abstract, without regard to the act of 1833. The chairman states the present duty at an aver age of about eighty-six per cent. ad valorem; I would ask, would it be wise to repeal at once so high a duty? Can it be done without ruinous losses, as well to the dealers in the article as the manufacturer? Even Carolina, in the heat of her contest against the protective system, never contemplated allowing less than six or seven years for the reduction of the protective duties to the revenue point; and shall we now, by a sudden and total repeal of so high a duty, prove ourselves less considerate in relation to existing investments than a State so decidedly opposed to the whole system in the midst of the greatest excitement?

But, whichever may be preferable, it is certain that the practical difference, as far as the South is concerned, is too small to warrant the sacrifice of the great interest which she has in maintaining inviolably the act of 1833, particularly when we consider that, as small as is the difference, we have no assurance of ever receiving this inconsiderable boon. Let us not forget that, if we of the South vote for this bill, we not only give much where we can receive but little, but we also give a certainty for an uncertainty. By the vote itself, whether the act passes or not, we surrender our position. We cannot, after disregarding the interests of others in the act, insist

reduce duties more rapidly than the act provides, how can we complain if the manufacturing interest should hereafter increase the duties, or retard or arrest the reduction provided by the act? Fair and honorable dealing has ever distinguished the Southern character; and I trust we have too much self-respect to complain, if the measure we now mete to others should hereafter be measured to ourselves. Our vote, then, for this measure would release the opposite interest from all obligation to respect the act of 1833, whatever may be the fate of this bill. Now, I ask, what assurance have we that this bill will pass? Is it not almost certain that it cannot? We are now within seven days of the end of the session. The bill is in Committee of the Whole, and cannot pass the Senate in less than two days; and what prospect is there that it can pass the other House in so short a time as remains, with the great diversity of opinion which must exist there as to this measure? It is next to impossible.

But suppose it to be practicable, have we any assu-rance that those who have introduced the bill are sincere in their desire to pass it? Have we no cause to apprehend that it is a mere political manœuvre, without regard to the interest of North or South, and which the contrivers would rather see defeated than passed? I must say that, to me, it seems to wear that appearance. Why has this bill been delayed to this late period? It is now more than three weeks since it was reported, and why were measures of little importance, and, to say the least, of doubtful policy, permitted to occupy the time of the Senate, in preference to this, which we are now told is so important? Why such contradictory declarations as to the state of the Treasury? At one time we are told there will be no surplus, and that the duties must be raised; and at another that the revenue will be so excessive as to call not only for the passage of this bill, but the extraordinary one which has passed this body in relation to the public lands? With all these indications, gentlemen must not be surprised that I am somewhat incredulous as to their zeal or sincerity, which is not a little increased when I look to the source from which it comes. Have you forgot the tariff of 1828, that bill of abominations so execrated by the South, and which has brought so many disasters on the country? I have [looking at Mr. WRIGHT] its author in my eyes, and he knows the fact. He well remembers the part he bore in the passage of that act, and the means by which it was effected. It was passed by a breach of faith. We were deceived then. It will not be my fault if we be deceived now. To guard against that, I must ask the indulgence of the Senate while I give a brief narrative of the passage of that oppressive act, and the part which the Senator acted at the time. I have no intention to wound his feelings. My object is not personal. That would be unworthy of the occasion, and, I trust, of myself. Far different motives actuate me. From the past we learn to anticipate the future. We then followed his lead. We know the result. He now invites us again to follow him on the same subject, though apparently in an opposite direction. Shall we follow? His course on the former occasion will best enable us to decide that question. I was a witness of the events of the day, and feel called upon to give the history of the transaction, in order to guide our decision

now.

The tariff of 1828 was as much a political movement as a measure of protection. The protective policy had triumphed in Congress by the passage of the tariff act of 1824, which was followed by the election of Mr. Adams to the presidency the next year, by which the protective system gained an ascendency in the executive, as it had previously in the legislative department of the Government. Emboldened by this success, an attempt was made

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